Keary Suska writes:
 > I am sure many of us who have had to deal with ORBS in New Zealand in the
 > past have come back feeling that they are a bunch of assholes, and their
 > reputation preceded the others who are listing open relays. I am glad to see
 > that ORBZ is willing to enter a dialog with admins instead of taking the
 > holier-than-thou "like it or lump it" attitude of the (hopefully) now
 > defunct ORBS.

Keary, ORBZ takes a holier-than-thou "like it or lump it" attitude.  I
told them to stop testing dul.crynwr.com on Saturday when I got
spammed Yet Again by them.  Later, Ian said:

 > You never actually asked us to stop.  You informed us that you'd block
 > us, and we said that was fine with us.  Had you asked us to stop, we
 > would have sent you our stop scanning policy:
 > 
 > Send us, via certified mail, on company letterhead, a letter stating
 > that you wish us to stop testing you, and that you understand that
 > this will result in unconditional blacklisting.  We'll add you to
 > both of our blacklists, post a scanned copy of the letter on our
 > web page as an explanation of why you've been manually added, and
 > change the last test date on your IP address to the year 3001, so
 > you won't be tested again.  The manual listings are necessary because
 > we can no longer verify that your server is not an open relay,
 > therefore we must assume that it is.

In other words, you can like it or lump it.  Your only real choice is
to block their scans.

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