Eric "Shubes" wrote:
Chris Marcellin wrote:
Jake Vickers wrote:
Chris Marcellin wrote:
Hi all;

i have 2 questions if i may.
first of all, smtp-auth replaces roaming users right, well, if i understand correctly, roaming users is users who can use a MUA outside of the domain, or outside a subnet of IP's of the local domain, or basically anywhere on the net, is this correct? and smtp-auth replaces roaming users, but, it authenticates first, right? is smtp-auth built in, or do i have to configure anything, i'm using the latest version of qmailtoaster. i pretty much read every thread on this site, and i came by a link on how to set up outlook, the link is http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/email/smtpauth/outlookxp.html. but, at the end of that page, it mentions i should replace the standard smtp port to 587, does this apply to qmailtoaster as well, or was that for that particular site? and should i use a different port other than the typical smtp port. sorry for all the questions.
the last question is regarding spf. i have set up my spf correctly, and i'm using the standard setting of 3, but, someone contacted me today that i know, and they told me that they sent me an email, and got a bounce telling them that it was an issue of spf. i looked in my smtp log file, and there was no mention of it. so, to make a long story short, i set my setting to 2 instead, then did a qmailctl stop, then qmailctl start, is this correct, or do i have to do restart another service or build a database?
again, sorry for all the questions at once.
What that website told you to do is pretty much what you need to do here as well. Make sure the box "my sever requires authentication" is ticked. QMail used to just let you send emails if you checked your email first, but this was replaced by logging in to send emails since this is a better method. You can leave the box for "use same settings as incoming server" checked, and there is no need to change ports. Many ISP's (and probably the site you looked at as well) are blocking port 25, in the hopes that this will reduce the amount of spam they get. Leave yours the way it is unless you have to change it for some reason.
That SPF level (3) should have been good. Unless your friend's domain specifically failed his message then your machine would not have bounced it. Would it be possible to see the error message?
Here you go Jake, and thankx all for the quick replies.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

The original message was received at Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:13:47 -0400
from mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.250]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    (reason: 550 See
http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=hkiewe%40cim.mcgill.ca&ip=132.206.27.49
&receiver=mail.canus.org (#5.7.1))

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... while talking to webmail.canus.org.:

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<<< 550 See
http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=hkiewe%40cim.mcgill.ca&ip=132.206.27.49
&receiver=mail.canus.org (#5.7.1)
550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
<<< 503 RCPT first (#5.5.1)

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Reporting-MTA: dns; torrent.cc.mcgill.ca
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA
Arrival-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:13:47 -0400

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; webmail.canus.org
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 See http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=hkiewe%40cim.mcgill.ca&ip=132.206.27.49&receiver=mail.canus.org (#5.7.1)
Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:13:50 -0400

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Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mailscan3.cc.mcgill.ca (mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.250])
    by torrent.cc.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k7NMDl1K032399    for
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:13:47 -0400
Received: from Sue ([132.206.162.223])    by mailscan3.cc.mcgill.ca
 (8.13.6/8.13.0) with SMTP id k7NMDbvr026743    for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed,
 23 Aug 2006 18:13:40 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:13:39 -0400
From: "Howard Kiewe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Inside work upstairs
In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris Marcellin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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$ dig cim.mcgill.ca TXT
shows (among other things):
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cim.mcgill.ca.          1200    IN      TXT     "v=spf1 mx -all"

This SPF record indicates that the only server allowed to send mail from cim.mcgill.ca is the mx server.

$ dig cim.mcgill.ca MX
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cim.mcgill.ca.          1200    IN      MX      50 avalanche.cim.mcgill.ca.

$ ping -c1 avalanche.cim.mcgill.ca
PING avalanche.cim.mcgill.ca (132.206.73.241) 56(84) bytes of data.

So we see that the server avalanche whose IP address is 132.206.73.241 is the only server allowed to send email from cim.mcgill.ca.

According to the return paths, the email from Howard came from Sue (132.206.162.223) who gave it to mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.250] who gave it to your server.

The problem lies in the DNS configuration for mcgill.ca. Their TXT record for SPF should look something like this:
cim.mcgill.ca. 1200 IN  TXT "v=spf1 mx include:mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA -all"

Have Howard tell his DNS administrator to fix their DNS TXT record for SPF. He can use the SPF wizard at http://spf.pobox.org for help.
yeah, i ran the same Dig commands, and figured that there was something wrong with their end, the only problem is though, that they're a huge university, and you know how it is when it comes to things like that, before you can actually do anything or change anything, it has to go through all kinds of beuracratic bull.
now with regards to smtp-auth. i had a friend from 2 different locations, setup outlook as per the link above, with the exception of changing the smtp and pop3 settings in the advanced menu. in the end, he could not log in, and there is absolutely no record of it in my logs, either smtp or send logs. and, just to let you know, there is nothing wrong with my logs, i check it often, and everything is working perfectly there. some help would be greatly appreciated.

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