On Nov 14, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Robert Greig wrote:

On 14/11/06, Steve Vinoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Don't put words in my mouth, Robert.

I don't think I need to; you seem to have plenty already.

Personal insults are neither helpful nor required here.

Nowhere do I say that Apache
guidelines require maven. I was saying that releases in the incubator
are intended to show that the project has a viable and diverse
community, and that that community knows the rules and regulations
required for releases.

And in the context of your email I read that as implying that maven
was part of that. Maybe that was a misinterpretation but it certainly
read like that to me.

Saying that "maven is required" would clearly be provably wrong, wouldn't it? So why would you think that that's what I'm saying?

I didn't say it was a barrier. I said, and have been saying for
weeks, that doing the work twice, once in ant and again in maven, is
pointless.

We are talking about a very small amount of modification to the ant
build system in order to get a release out there. It is the maven work
that seems to have been weeks of effort.

Actually, no. It was mere days of effort. I was traveling for several weeks in the middle of that work, and once I got back into the work, I ran into the issue of the poorly-structured tests. I tried multiple avenues around the test issues and around the junit4 issues, which took a few days, but once I refactored the tests, the new mvn branch took just a few hours on Sunday to put together.

--steve

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