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You're right Stacy and I bet any one of us would gladly give
our life up if it would put an end to sci and all the
other diseases associated with stem cells.
Mark
-------Original
Message-------
Date: Sunday, October
10, 2004 11:21:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party
Endorsement Kerry/Edwards
If those lines aren't used ever then what good is it even though it
is fertilized? It's not being used and most of them wont be.
They just stay frozen forever? What kind of life is that for an
embryo? Why not use them to help for research
and then the can potentially make lives better for people with many
disabilities. It may not help you or me or any of us for
that matter, but what about future generations? A fertilized
embryo that would be frozen forever if not used for research or
more people living lives in misery.
Stacy
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you
destroy yourself"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004
10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political
Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party
Endorsement Kerry/Edwards
Bush did not ban stem cell research! He
limited federal funding of "embryonic" stem cells to those few lines
that existed before August 9, 2001. States can fund embryonic stem
cell research on lines that are not within the federal guidelines all
they want. Last year the NIH funded $190 million in "adult" stem cell
research.
If one believes that a human embryo is the beginning
of a human life, even if it is just a few microscopic cells, then how
can that person justify destroying it?
Personally, I haven't
quit decided based on the information I have read. So until I'm more
certain I have no problem limiting embryonic stem cell research and
focusing funding on adult stem cells.
Jim
At 06:44 PM
10/10/2004, Stacy Harim wrote:
I agree Mark, then
what happens if by some miracle they find a major advancement with
the couple of crappy lines they have left. Will Bush go ahead
and let the use the remaining lines that are not being used?
It doesn't sound like it because he doesn't agree with it at
all.
Stacy
"People who hate you do not win unless
you hate them. Then you destroy yourself"
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Mark Felling
- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:21 PM
- Subject: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic ....
Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards
- Boyd,
-
- I have seen an e-mail similar to yours prior to yours. I'm
assuming that is where you borrowed it from with a few
editions... However I ask you, where is the logic in your
statement: "
as reflected in
stepped-up American and allied casualties in Iraq"? How do
increased casualties in Iraq demonstrate al-Qa'ida' support for
Kerry/Edwards? The logic of that statement is ludicrous and
nonexistent.
Further, the logic saying that if
the Communist Party does not support Bush (which I question the
validity of such an official statement having been made), then
they must support Kerry is just as silly. That is like
saying if A does not equal B, then B must equal C. This is
not a form of deduction or even induction, but rather one of the
most common examples of false logic. (Look it up in any
academic resource considering the topic of deduction)
Please, if you want to argue
politics, focus on real issues each candidate takes a specific
stance on, such as stem cell research.
(Note, so far I have not given an
opinion or support for one side or the other) however if you
watched the debate last night, Bush stated that he supported stem
cell research but felt that the existing stem cell lines "he made
available" were sufficient for scientific research. He
believes these lines contaminated with mouse cells are
"sufficient?!" (he never contested the fact the lines were
contaminated with mouse cells thus concedes that fact). He
apparently believes treatments developed that are contaminated
with mouse cells are "sufficient" for you and I. Apparently
he is so arrogant that he believes he knows more than the
scientists who adamantly emphasize that their hands are tied with
this restriction combined with the contamination. I wonder
if his opinion would change if one of his drunken daughters broke
her knack during one of her binges?
It is true that I despise Bush,
his ignorance of the world and international relations, his
misconception for economics, his lack of vision for anything his
father did not first try to push, etc. the only thing I support
about him is his support for adoption as an alternative for late
term, third trimester, abortions. Yet, did I state that I
necessarily support Kerry? No. That my Democrat? No.
Am I a student of international relations, specific to
international cultural interactions & conflicts, international
economic interactions, who has traveled the world, lived abroad,
and speaks a number of languages? Yes. However, by the
false, deductive logic in your previous statement Boyd, I guess I
must be a Communist! Chuckle!
Please be original rather then
mimicking Internet spewed garbage...
Mark Felling
- -----Original Message-----
- From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
- Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 12:29 PM
- To: hey-guys
- Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] Communist Party Endorsement
Kerry/Edwards
- Where exactly might I find evidence that this cast of
criminals and ne'er-do-wells support Kerry? bin Laden is hiding
in the hills and Saddam is in jail. The rest have no bearing on
American elections except perhaps some twisted sense of revenge
against Bush. Of course, all Republicans are righteous and would
NEVER spin the truth. GOP is just a tiny letter removed from
GOD, therefore it MUST be above reproach. Perfect logic.
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Boyd Jenkins
- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tom Barker Thomas Barker
; Dolores Barrett ; Henry Cudo henry cudo ; Robert Dotson ; Duane Ebarb ; Carl Grishom ; Brant Jenkins ; Brant Jenkins
Jenkins Brant Civ 608 COS/DOOO ; TL & Mollie
Jenkins ; Carla Lammons ; Steve Lammons ; Terry Madden ; Lavonne
Murphy ; Rhonda Pardue ; Cheri
Pelletier ; RANDY an [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Kathie Troquille ; Brenda Waldrip
- Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:07 PM
- Subject: [QUAD-L] Communist Party Endorsement
Kerry/Edwards
- Since the Kerry/Edwards ticket
is courted by al-Qa'ida', as
- reflected in stepped-up American and allied casualties in
- Iraq, and since that ticket is also supported by:
- Osama bin Laden
- Saddam Hussein
- Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi
- Kim Jong-Il
- Mohammad Khatami
- Moammar al-Ghadafi
- Hu Jingtao
- Jacques Chirac
- Gerhard Schroeder
- Kofi Annan,
AND the Communist Party, USA, stating: “We have
refrained from fielding our own candidate so as not
to distract from the main effort of defeating Bush and
the ultra-right extremist agenda."
We must count our great good fortune, that except for
members of the Communist Party, none of the listed
entities enjoy our privilege of casting a ballot directly.
The CPUSA’s collective anti-American posture makes
a mockery of their citizenship.
We need to keep President Bush in the oval office!
Boyd
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