I too, am very optimistic around people and don't show that being in a chair bothers me--I laugh, etc. too. There just are not any guys where I go! I regularly take my service dog to the university track and do a mile with him. A lot of times I'm the only one there, or if there are others they 'may' say something when we pass each other, but thats it. They are also younger now--low to mid 20's
and with all the cute girls that go by and wear those little short tops, and have no quad belly, its rather hopeless. The public trail I go on is more my age types, but there again other than a short 'its a beautiful day', they keep jogging or bicycle by. At dog training class its 99 per cent women. The one man is married.


I have not tried church yet. The one I grew up in is a block away. By the time I remember its Sunday, its too late or I'm wearing the worse tee-shirt I have!
Both of my step-brothers found their wives at church. They were in their 30's and married divorced women with one daughter.


This is turning into venting, so I will stop.                take care,

Dana and ?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "quadlist" <[email protected]>; "Dana Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive



In my situation, my self esteem is good. I know that I am a good person. I have a lot to offer. I have a good sense of humor and one about being in a wheelchair. I don't show that anything lets me down when I am around people. I have even rolled up to guys when I'm out and complimented them on something (smile, eyes, etc.) I have no issues with flirting, it just doesn't go anywhere. When I compliment them they say thank you and that's that.


Stacy
----- Original Message ----- From: Dana Miller<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quadlist<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive



Thats a good introspective concern! I had not really thought of it in that
way--at least not to that extent. I know my self asteem is not that good,
my eye contact either. I need to re-learn how to flirt! I used to be very
good at it. A glass or 2 of wine or a drink will loosen me up, make me
talk more and flirt. But I don't hang out in bars or know anyone that does,
well I do have one attendant.......hmmm.


 There is no magic pill.  I think it "might" be neat to do one of those
 dating classes--speed dating I think its called?  They probably cost too
 much.  They say to go to places you like to do and there might be a single
 there that likes the same thing,  thus there is a commonality already.

 Running out of response.--  :>:D                                    take
 care,

Dana and ?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Houston809" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
To: "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>; "quadlist"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive



Stacy,
I�m not thinking that it�s really that difficult 2 find a person that�ll be
there in a meaningful relationship. I have some problems but some of them
it�s more me than them. So don�t think that I�m going against anything I�ve
said. But I know that a big part of not having someone is my doing... It
could also be others now sometimez we have 2 step back (ROLL BACK) and look
at ourselves in the mirror. Would I want 2 be with me if the circumstances
were reversed?
Houston


On 1/8/05 1:13 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

> Your right in the aspect of everyday life. Of course I know that. The
> statement was related to relationships. Para's are still seen as
> paralyzed.
> In the aspect of getting looked at as a sexual being is just as hard for
> para's to face. To the opposite sex paralyzed is paralyzed.
>
> Stacy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Greg <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>
>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:20 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That statement shouldn't hurt anyone. It's true... Paras have it easier
>> than
>> quads. Just like a C5 like me has it easier than a C4. The more moement
>> you
>> have, the more you can do for yourself. If it's not a fact, than show me
>> someone who would volunteer to break their spine a few levels higher.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stacy I wasn't implying that para's have it easier I was just saying if
>> I
>> had a good "Grip" I could help myself!"
>









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