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Eric ...
It's a sad case but I'm sure you've seen in 90% of court cases NO MATTER what ... the female gets
custody.
Things in writing? Even THAT is a laugh! When my hubby slit with his ex IT WAS A COURT ORDER that
the mother (his ex) keep the daughter in the same state. That didn't stop her. She picked up and moved with
my husband's daughter BACK WITH HER MOMMY & DADDY to another state over a 1000 miles away. She
did it simply because cshe thought she could. She did and not a damn thing stopped her.
When my husband spoke to lawyers (big time Houston, TX lawyers ... and my husband is tough ... not taking no as an answer, etc) they
said my hubby could spend thousands of $$$$ in the courts and not get anywhere. In our legal system ... if one (to be blunt)
has two tits & a pussy ... they get custody. UNLESS it can be PROVEN the mother is "an unfit mother"
... fathers and males in this country get screwed! It's so sad but so true.
There ARE other cases favoring the father but far less than the opposite.
Lori
-------Original Message-------
Date: 01/15/06 14:15:07
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] advice
River,
I told Amy that if anything happened to her, her mother would try to get
custody of the kid. Amy told me her mother isn't THAT evil. I know
better though. I'd like to talk to you and anyone else about the legal
issues. I remember you posting that you and you're partner got things
all in writing.
Eric
River Wolfe wrote:
> Hi Eric:
>
> It's late for me so I'll write what came to my mind first. Amy's
> mother is not practicing christianity, for it is a religion of
> forgiveness and love and good deeds. Secondly, now that you are
> Amy's spouse, Amy's family should treat you as such. However, it's
> not that simple since there's no marriage certificate. PLEASE be
> sure you have all of the correct papers (POA, Will, LIving WIll, all
> financial business in BOTH names), or else her family could, and it
> sounds like they would take control if something ever happens to her
> like illness, coma, or death. Not to mention your parental rights...
>
> please be cautious and keep your distance from them.
>
> Peace,
> River
> On Jan 14, 2006, at 8:46 PM, William Willis wrote:
>
>> Jeez, Eric, that's one hell of a situation. my heart breaks for the
>> two of you. She sounds like the grandmother in the movie "Flowers In
>> the Attic." Evil hiding behind a Bible.
>> It is unlikely that she will change, barring some miracle. If you
>> haven't already, visit a professional counselor. Together, perhaps
>> the two of you can give Amy the strength to face up to her. A few
>> prayers wouldn't hurt either. I believe just hearing someone else
>> confirm that you are in the right would be a source of strength. God
>> bless you, my friend. Larry Willis
>>
>>
>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] advice
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:09:31 -0600
>>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm currently in a situation I don't know how to handle. My wife,
>>> (I call her my wife but we could only have a commitment ceremony)
>>> Amy's family is just awful. For our commitment ceremony, we rented
>>> a hall, had dinner the whole nine yards and her parents refused to
>>> come. Her parents are these hardcore pentecostal Christians which
>>> is odd because Amy's mother is the most evil woman I've NEVER
>>> met. When Amy and I started dating, She took Amy's picture off the
>>> wall in their house. She used to have prayer meetings at the house
>>> and they would pray for Amy to change her mind. Amy's sister said
>>> marrying me would be like marrying a rapist. Her brother told her
>>> she should start thinking with her head instead of her heart. Her
>>> father seems to have at least made peace with it. Unfortunately,
>>> for us, he has no testicles. If Amy's mom told him he could no
>>> longer have any contact with his own daughter, that's what he'd
>>> do. That statement pretty much sums up how ball-less he is and how
>>> manipulative she is. It would take days to write everything they
>>> have done so you'll just have to trust me. I could give a rats ass
>>> what they think of me, but they treat their own daughter /sister
>>> like shit because of me. This shit has been going on the entire 5
>>> years we've been together.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Amy has this bizarre need for her family's approval
>>> especially from her mother. She has been reaching out to her
>>> family the past 5 years to try and make things work and every time
>>> they shit on her. I keep telling her, the only way to keep from
>>> getting hurt, is to just write off her family for now and hope
>>> things improve in the distant future. I know they won't. She
>>> doesn't listen. She walks around crying saying "I have no
>>> mother." I feel bad for her. Needing her mothers approval has
>>> turned into a sick obsession in my opinion. What should I do?
>>>
>>> This is where things get complicated. Amy is pregnant. Normally
>>> this would be great news to share with you but with her family ...
>>> To get the whole picture, you really need to understand how screwed
>>> up and evil Amy's mother is. A couple years ago, Amy had a
>>> friend's kid over at her mother's house and the baby was crying.
>>> Amy's mother says "he's crying because he comes from a broken
>>> home." His parents were not married at the time. Amy's mom is the
>>> kind of nut that would tell our kid that his/her parents are going
>>> to hell because they are not married. Funny story. Amy's sister
>>> got married a couple weeks after we did outside at disneyworld.
>>> During the ceremony there is a rumble of thunder in the distance
>>> and Amy's mother says out loud so all 16 people attending heard
>>> "that's because God doesn't approve of this marriage." She was
>>> sitting next to the groom's mother when she said it.
>>>
>>> Anyway, Amy knows her mother is way to stressful to tell before
>>> she's well into her third trimester, but we're thinking about not
>>> telling them before at all. Amy's afraid that, if her mother comes
>>> to see her in the hospital, she will say something horrible and
>>> ruin the birth experience. She hasn't decided whether to call
>>> afterwards or just send her parents a birth announcement. I said
>>> we should just send them a high school graduation picture. lol This
>>> is just for the birth. We don't know how much of our child's life
>>> we want them to be. They've completely shunned Amy and made it
>>> clear they want nothing to do with her as long as she's with me.
>>> We don't think they really deserve to know or be part of the kids
>>> life. Do we want to expose our kid to people that hate his / her
>>> dad because he's disabled?
>>>
>>> Part of me hopes that, if we do tell them, it will bring us
>>> together but I know it won't. They will ask her to bring the baby
>>> over but only if she comes alone. That's what they told her at
>>> Christmas. Part of me wants to use the kid as a bargaining chip.
>>> I'd like to call Amy's dad and tell him they better start treating
>>> Amy like a daughter deserves and quick or they will NEVER see this
>>> kid. Anyone have an opinion?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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