Canada is socialist. So is France. Maybe you're living in the wrong country. I didn't take the oath just to see commie politics scrap our constitution. tnt
On Dec 27, 2007 1:48 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim, That is the good news. I will qualify for county aid this year as I > did last year, but thanks for the actual answer. > I won't argue with you about politics because it tends to make the list > difficult for those that need help, or a laugh. I am a socialist and I do > think those that benefit the most from our system should pay the most to > make were we live better for everyone, specially the poor. > > > MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR, > john > P.S. Maybe you can take your anti-society rant on the road and become the > new Rush Limpbowel. At least your not a drug addict. > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Quad List <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:28:52 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax? > > Got news for you. > Life isn't fair or free. > This ISN'T a socialist nation. > It doesn't sound like your living in a cardboard box or starving. > In some other countries most of the population does. > Is life hard? > Hell yes, but a lot of people "today" have somehow got the idea that it's > somebodies responsibility to provide for them. > Guess what? > It's not. > I served our country during Nam, and since my accident almost 12 yrs ago, > the VA has taken good care of me (much better than 8 yrs ago). If I had > children, they too would be getting healthcare. > So I'll go along with your thought that every-able bodied citizen should > have to serve the community in some form for at least 2 yrs. > The rich already pay over 37% in income taxes (unless you're the klintons > who somehow mange to pay almost nothing on their > $ 40,000,000 (don't just take my word for it, check it out yourself) > The top 10% already pay 90% of the taxes. > However, > DRUG COMPANIES, HMO's, and many perscription drug plans are hosing us. I > have to pay that monthly "drug" fee even though I'm lucky to get my scripts > from the VA for nothing, so instead of complaining about that mo payment, I > figure it helps keep other peoples payments lower. > We lose over 20% of our Medicade dollars to illegal aliens > The Democrats pushed NAFTA through and gave China most favored trade > status. > Guess where our manufacturing base went? Along with the jobs, the tax base > was loss. > The Liberals won't let States use Cons for hard labor, we sure could free > up a lot of tax dollars letting them build roads. > I've been an INDEPENDENT since 1976. > I've long held that lawyers being politicians was a monopoly and a > conflict of interest. > Ohio has PROBLEMS, been hearing about them for years now. > Medicaare and Medicaid varies from State to State. > I know IL gets better services than IN, but I can't see living there just > because of it. (and I'm ~ 12mi from the state line), can't stand their left > winged politics. > > Being "poor" in the USA is better off than over 1/3rd of the worlds > population. > We're far better off than Americans during the great deression OR WWII. > > BTW, you ought to check for utility assistence through your County > trustee, and shop around for a dif drug provider. > > TNT > On Dec 26, 2007 1:20 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tim, > > When I say its a tax, I meant a hidden tax. You can't overtly tax the > > poor without looking like a heartless boob. In fact, I did pay taxes before > > B-b-b-bush. I never had to pay for so many drugs out of my pocket. That is a > > hidden tax on the poor. I personally payed out over $2,000 on stuff that use > > to be covered by Medicare or Medicaid oir Waiver, each of these so called > > safty nets took me a long miserable battle that assured the world I was > > virtually homeless. If you add up everything they stopped paying for and > > "PLAN D FROM OUTER SPACE!", then I'm now receiving $2000 less than I got in > > 2004. And I'm told by my congressman it will be getting worse because they > > intend to make further cuts in services. That is a %20 tax increase on the > > poor. At least on this poor it is. Could you imagine the Shyt Fyt all those > > poor millionaires would throw if they raised their taxes 20%. > > I do appreciate the Sunday lunch at the church, but it isn't like I can > > trade it for condom catheters. > > Another little trick in Ohio...they want my next chair to be a Pride > > Jazzy. I suggest you guys depending on Medicare for chairs begin taking real > > good care of what you have. I'm getting all new wheels three new safety > > controllers and the custom back they said I needed 4 1/2 years ago, and then > > it is completely out of warranty. > > So, I call what they do taxing the poor. I'm sure some of you feel the > > gov't overtaxes you. I know I never liked it when I worked. They sure didn't > > spend my taxes to fix up the neighborhood I live in. > > Oh, I get it! You think I blame a party? I don't think there are 2 dozen > > people in Washington DC that give a crap about what they do and haven't sold > > out the American people. Reagan had Alzheimer's, Bush 1 believed Arabs loved > > him, Slick Willy was, well, Slick Willy, and Bush2 will probably be > > remembered as the first president to get the US into a religious war. I > > think theres way too much proof that we don't neeeeeeed no steeeeeeenkkeeeng > > president. Americans should do public service and take a test to earn the > > right to vote, and lawyers should never be allowed into politics. > > Tim, If you are doing better on this new system, I could sure use a few > > tips. Every bill I have has gone up dramatically. The guy that owns the > > building just raised the price of the washing machine to $2 a load. My > > electric goes up to $115 next month. My TV dinners even went up. If you have > > some income, hell, I'm happy for you. With Bush in office, people with lots > > of money have done pretty well. I'm just pissed cause I'm poor and Bush > > gives away more money to the worlds largest corporations than he spends on > > health care and aid for poor. He has done more to help people refinance 1/2 > > million dollar homes in 3 months than hes done for children in "no child > > left behind" in the last 6 years. If your a quad that wants to see things > > improve for handicapped people, well, some of the people do get fooled all > > the time. > > > > > > Happy New Year, > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: John S. < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:02:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax? > > > > You pay taxes? > > Are you saying before President Bush you didn't pay taxes? > > > > Hate to burst your bubble, but CONGRESS makes the budget and pass the > > tax laws. > > Believe it or not, President Bush wasn't the one in power when the > > DEMOCRATS started taxing Social Security. > > BTW, LBJ opened up Social Security money to pay for his entitlement > > programs. > > It was ALWAYS the Democrats who played with Social Security while > > playing the fear card that Republicans "were" going to cut benefits. > > Personaly, I'm better off now than when Slick Willie was playing games. > > > > Merry frakkin Christmas! > > tnt > > > > On Dec 22, 2007 4:02 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just found my anal statement from anal anthem and gosh I got reemed > > > for drugs last year. IV drugs are the ones that go directly into you > > > through > > > a vein. Hangs on a pole and drips. My last few IV's messed up. > > > so just to add this to the what do you have list, I paid $791 and > > > change on medications last year. The longer I am on Med/Med the more I do > > > pay. That stuff use to be covered. > > > I only got $7.10 into the "initial coverage limit" I'll have to pay > > > all of any other drugs I need this year. It will be over $900. > > > Sure wish I could bitch about how bad my taxes are, pffffft! If it > > > makes your rich friend feel better, let him know that Bush & Co. do tax > > > the > > > poor and when your as poor as me, it hurts a lot worse! > > > > > > john > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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