Tim, That is the good news. I will qualify for county aid this year as I did last year, but thanks for the actual answer. I won't argue with you about politics because it tends to make the list difficult for those that need help, or a laugh. I am a socialist and I do think those that benefit the most from our system should pay the most to make were we live better for everyone, specially the poor.
MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR, john P.S. Maybe you can take your anti-society rant on the road and become the new Rush Limpbowel. At least your not a drug addict. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Quad List <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:28:52 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax? Got news for you. Life isn't fair or free. This ISN'T a socialist nation. It doesn't sound like your living in a cardboard box or starving. In some other countries most of the population does. Is life hard? Hell yes, but a lot of people "today" have somehow got the idea that it's somebodies responsibility to provide for them. Guess what? It's not. I served our country during Nam, and since my accident almost 12 yrs ago, the VA has taken good care of me (much better than 8 yrs ago). If I had children, they too would be getting healthcare. So I'll go along with your thought that every-able bodied citizen should have to serve the community in some form for at least 2 yrs. The rich already pay over 37% in income taxes (unless you're the klintons who somehow mange to pay almost nothing on their $ 40,000,000 (don't just take my word for it, check it out yourself) The top 10% already pay 90% of the taxes. However, DRUG COMPANIES, HMO's, and many perscription drug plans are hosing us. I have to pay that monthly "drug" fee even though I'm lucky to get my scripts from the VA for nothing, so instead of complaining about that mo payment, I figure it helps keep other peoples payments lower. We lose over 20% of our Medicade dollars to illegal aliens The Democrats pushed NAFTA through and gave China most favored trade status. Guess where our manufacturing base went? Along with the jobs, the tax base was loss. The Liberals won't let States use Cons for hard labor, we sure could free up a lot of tax dollars letting them build roads. I've been an INDEPENDENT since 1976. I've long held that lawyers being politicians was a monopoly and a conflict of interest. Ohio has PROBLEMS, been hearing about them for years now. Medicaare and Medicaid varies from State to State. I know IL gets better services than IN, but I can't see living there just because of it. (and I'm ~ 12mi from the state line), can't stand their left winged politics. Being "poor" in the USA is better off than over 1/3rd of the worlds population. We're far better off than Americans during the great deression OR WWII. BTW, you ought to check for utility assistence through your County trustee, and shop around for a dif drug provider. TNT On Dec 26, 2007 1:20 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tim, When I say its a tax, I meant a hidden tax. You can't overtly tax the poor without looking like a heartless boob. In fact, I did pay taxes before B-b-b-bush. I never had to pay for so many drugs out of my pocket. That is a hidden tax on the poor. I personally payed out over $2,000 on stuff that use to be covered by Medicare or Medicaid oir Waiver, each of these so called safty nets took me a long miserable battle that assured the world I was virtually homeless. If you add up everything they stopped paying for and "PLAN D FROM OUTER SPACE!", then I'm now receiving $2000 less than I got in 2004. And I'm told by my congressman it will be getting worse because they intend to make further cuts in services. That is a %20 tax increase on the poor. At least on this poor it is. Could you imagine the Shyt Fyt all those poor millionaires would throw if they raised their taxes 20%. I do appreciate the Sunday lunch at the church, but it isn't like I can trade it for condom catheters. Another little trick in Ohio...they want my next chair to be a Pride Jazzy. I suggest you guys depending on Medicare for chairs begin taking real good care of what you have. I'm getting all new wheels three new safety controllers and the custom back they said I needed 4 1/2 years ago, and then it is completely out of warranty. So, I call what they do taxing the poor. I'm sure some of you feel the gov't overtaxes you. I know I never liked it when I worked. They sure didn't spend my taxes to fix up the neighborhood I live in. Oh, I get it! You think I blame a party? I don't think there are 2 dozen people in Washington DC that give a crap about what they do and haven't sold out the American people. Reagan had Alzheimer's, Bush 1 believed Arabs loved him, Slick Willy was, well, Slick Willy, and Bush2 will probably be remembered as the first president to get the US into a religious war. I think theres way too much proof that we don't neeeeeeed no steeeeeeenkkeeeng president. Americans should do public service and take a test to earn the right to vote, and lawyers should never be allowed into politics. Tim, If you are doing better on this new system, I could sure use a few tips. Every bill I have has gone up dramatically. The guy that owns the building just raised the price of the washing machine to $2 a load. My electric goes up to $115 next month. My TV dinners even went up. If you have some income, hell, I'm happy for you. With Bush in office, people with lots of money have done pretty well. I'm just pissed cause I'm poor and Bush gives away more money to the worlds largest corporations than he spends on health care and aid for poor. He has done more to help people refinance 1/2 million dollar homes in 3 months than hes done for children in "no child left behind" in the last 6 years. If your a quad that wants to see things improve for handicapped people, well, some of the people do get fooled all the time. Happy New Year, john ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John S. < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:02:30 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax? You pay taxes? Are you saying before President Bush you didn't pay taxes? Hate to burst your bubble, but CONGRESS makes the budget and pass the tax laws. Believe it or not, President Bush wasn't the one in power when the DEMOCRATS started taxing Social Security. BTW, LBJ opened up Social Security money to pay for his entitlement programs. It was ALWAYS the Democrats who played with Social Security while playing the fear card that Republicans "were" going to cut benefits. Personaly, I'm better off now than when Slick Willie was playing games. Merry frakkin Christmas! tnt On Dec 22, 2007 4:02 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just found my anal statement from anal anthem and gosh I got reemed for drugs last year. IV drugs are the ones that go directly into you through a vein. Hangs on a pole and drips. My last few IV's messed up. so just to add this to the what do you have list, I paid $791 and change on medications last year. The longer I am on Med/Med the more I do pay. That stuff use to be covered. I only got $7.10 into the "initial coverage limit" I'll have to pay all of any other drugs I need this year. It will be over $900. Sure wish I could bitch about how bad my taxes are, pffffft! If it makes your rich friend feel better, let him know that Bush & Co. do tax the poor and when your as poor as me, it hurts a lot worse! john Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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