I had the same exact problem at a sports bar not too far away. They wanted me 
to sit near the kitchen.  I told the guy I was fully aware of local fire codes 
and hes perfectly welcome to call the fire department. I told him I'd gladly 
pay the fine and I can call them myself If it will be easier? He decided to 
just let it slide this time. i did write the owners but never got a reply. 
Guess that is another restaurant I can't go to. (I just know he would spit on 
my food.)

john


----- Original Message ----
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:42:55 PM
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Monologue

I've had the same thing happen to me twice. The first time was at the Red
Lobster. I used to go there fairly often and like almost every restaurant
I've been to they always try to sit wheelchairs in the center of the
room. To me this is the worst place fire safety wise besides, I hate
sitting there. So I would always ask to sit along the wall. They always
said okay until they got a new manager and he gave me the same story as
you. 

I tried to reason with him saying why are baby high chairs and seeing eye
dogs allowed to occupy the places while I couldn't. He just kept
repeating that the fire Marshall won't allow wheelchairs there. I never
went back. I go to many restaurants this was only one of two that
enforced this archaic law.

The other one was a large restaurant. The dinning room was almost empty
as it was between rush times. The manager/owner gave me the same spiel. I
said, lady, this place is empty. Plus the tables were very far apart. 

Anyway, that was back in the '80's and I've never been asked to move
again.

Dan 

      


At 06:04 PM 4/29/2008 -0400, Quadius said something that elicited my
response:
  


I had something rather
interesting happen to me the other day. I went out to dinner with my
brother and the usher mistakenly put us in the wrong place. I was sitting
in the aisle, because my wheelchair cannot fit under any table. It has
nothing to do with the ADA, my armrests are simply too high and it's more
beneficial for me to sit to the side so someone can feed me. That's my
own set of circumstances, so I don't complain about things like
that.

Anyway, I made sure there was plenty of room to get by me or I would have
never sat there in the first place. The manager comes over after only
about two or three minutes and tells me I need to be moved. He was
polite, so I simply asked why this was necessary. He explained to me it
was a fire hazard to have me in the aisle. While I was moving, I tried to
explain to him that some of the modifications they had made recently made
the restaurant a little tighter and would probably be more of a fire
hazard than he realized. I think he believed I was being a little pissy,
so I made sure I changed my tone. I initially thought he got my message,
but I discovered later he didn't.

Just as I was about ready to finish my dinner, I noticed the waitress
setting up some of the tables so a large party could be accommodated. I
told my brother, "you know that's going to be a fire hazard when
those individuals sit there in the aisle." Well, that's what turned
out to be. The waitresses had to turn to the side in order to get by and
no one saw anything wrong with this.

On my way out I politely asked the manager to take a look down the aisle
and tell me if he saw anything wrong. He initially indicated he did not
and when I pointed out the problem he too shook his head in agreement. In
a polite manner I asked him, "what would happen if I contacted the
fire marshal right now?" (In case you're wondering why I asked this
negative question, it's because when he was explaining to me why I needed
to move initially he told me at the fire marshal was called or came in
that they would be closed down for a week if I was sitting in the
aisle).

His response, "they probably closes down there." "What are
you going to do about this situation?" I asked. He shrugged his
shoulders in bewilderment. Then I ask what can we do about this. His
suggestion was for me to call corporate headquarters. I intend on doing
this, but for some reason I keep forgetting to lay out the contact
information.

Don't get me wrong the guy was very polite and they accommodated me, but
the blatant institutional discrimination gets on my nerves. This problem
truly is not about being disabled though. It's more about making sure
restaurants comply with the safety restrictions and not simply choose to
ignore the ones which are most profitable to them. I'm sure if I would
have had six or seven guests, they would have let me sit anywhere I
wanted.

I know, it sounds pissy, but the manager thanked me for not blaming him.
I guess some other people have gone off on him about an accessible
bathrooms, as if it's his personal fault. He's only a 20
something-year-old young man. He can bring it up with corporate, but if
they don't do anything, I guess it's up to someone else to take
charge.

Sorry if this is a rambling mess, but it is simply dictated it rather
quickly.

Quadius


      
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