That's a good point Todd.  Thanks for the input.
Quadius

On 4/29/08, Tod E. Santee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Calling Corporate... I can't tell you how often I've heard a manager tell
> me to "Call Corporate" after I bring an obvious problem or substantial
> ADA-related compliance issue that caused difficulty.  I have found that many
> times (not always) it's simply a way of saying "move along, I'd rather do
> other things" because normally Corporate either can't or won't do
> anything.  The main reason for this is because a lot of these businesses
> (like Red Lobster, Applebee's, Pep Boys, Walgreens, etc.) are "Individually
> Owned and Operated." ...  In other words, any compliance issues fall
> squarely and entirely on the shoulders of the owner.
>
> I can understand how some people might say, "I'll simply take my business
> somewhere they are willing to accommodate me."  But there are many places
> were types of businesses where it simply isn't possible to go somewhere
> else.  Hospitals, doctors offices, the only store of its type in your area
> (particularly in small towns).
>
> That's why with all accommodations the ADA addresses, and the Rehab Act
> before that, include phrases such as "wherever possible," "readily
> achievable," and "reasonable."
>
> I always begin discussions with managers or owners with a very polite
> tone.  Many times they don't realize they are out of compliance and I'd take
> the opportunity to explain.  I even offer to help them find the easiest way
> to properly correct the problems.  However, many other times it is simply an
> instance where I absolutely know for certain that the owner/manager has been
> informed of the deficiency many times or received several complaints about
> it and have no doubt they are out of compliance.  THESE are the times I get
> quite upset and file a complaint.
>
> Again, I think it's important to note that whether you agree with whether
> someone should be accessible one or not, the ADA is a Civil Rights
> law.  Excluding a person with a disability is no different than excluding a
> person of color, gender or religious affiliation -- except for the fact that
> often the person with a disability may not have the luxury of taking their
> business elsewhere.
>
> Whether they should or not isn't really the issue... it's whether they're
> required that really matters.
>
> Best regards,
> --Tod
>
> ---- Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had something rather interesting happen to me the other day. I went
> out to
> > dinner with my brother and the usher mistakenly put us in the wrong
> place. I
> > was sitting in the aisle, because my wheelchair cannot fit under any
> table.
> > It has nothing to do with the ADA, my armrests are simply too high and
> it's
> > more beneficial for me to sit to the side so someone can feed me. That's
> my
> > own set of circumstances, so I don't complain about things like that.
> >
> > Anyway, I made sure there was plenty of room to get by me or I would
> have
> > never sat there in the first place. The manager comes over after only
> about
> > two or three minutes and tells me I need to be moved. He was polite, so
> I
> > simply asked why this was necessary. He explained to me it was a fire
> hazard
> > to have me in the aisle. While I was moving, I tried to explain to him
> that
> > some of the modifications they had made recently made the restaurant a
> > little tighter and would probably be more of a fire hazard than he
> realized.
> > I think he believed I was being a little pissy, so I made sure I changed
> my
> > tone. I initially thought he got my message, but I discovered later he
> > didn't.
> >
> > Just as I was about ready to finish my dinner, I noticed the waitress
> > setting up some of the tables so a large party could be accommodated. I
> told
> > my brother, "you know that's going to be a fire hazard when those
> > individuals sit there in the aisle." Well, that's what turned out to be.
> The
> > waitresses had to turn to the side in order to get by and no one saw
> > anything wrong with this.
> >
> > On my way out I politely asked the manager to take a look down the aisle
> and
> > tell me if he saw anything wrong. He initially indicated he did not and
> when
> > I pointed out the problem he too shook his head in agreement. In a
> polite
> > manner I asked him, "what would happen if I contacted the fire marshal
> right
> > now?" (In case you're wondering why I asked this negative question, it's
> > because when he was explaining to me why I needed to move initially he
> told
> > me at the fire marshal was called or came in that they would be closed
> down
> > for a week if I was sitting in the aisle).
> >
> > His response, "they probably closes down there." "What are you going to
> do
> > about this situation?" I asked. He shrugged his shoulders in
> bewilderment.
> > Then I ask what can we do about this. His suggestion was for me to call
> > corporate headquarters. I intend on doing this, but for some reason I
> keep
> > forgetting to lay out the contact information.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong the guy was very polite and they accommodated me, but
> the
> > blatant institutional discrimination gets on my nerves. This problem
> truly
> > is not about being disabled though. It's more about making sure
> restaurants
> > comply with the safety restrictions and not simply choose to ignore the
> ones
> > which are most profitable to them. I'm sure if I would have had six or
> seven
> > guests, they would have let me sit anywhere I wanted.
> >
> > I know, it sounds pissy, but the manager thanked me for not blaming him.
> I
> > guess some other people have gone off on him about an accessible
> bathrooms,
> > as if it's his personal fault. He's only a 20 something-year-old young
> man.
> > He can bring it up with corporate, but if they don't do anything, I
> guess
> > it's up to someone else to take charge.
> >
> > Sorry if this is a rambling mess, but it is simply dictated it rather
> > quickly.
> >
> > Quadius
>
>

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