When I was in rehab 11 years ago at St. johns Hospital in Missouri,  every 
nurse there  knew about digital stimulation, but many hospitals still don't 
know much about  quads or that kind of stuff UNLESS they are a REHAB floor.  
Like you said John it is a blessing to have family members that know------ If 
I'm ever in a hospital nowday's and it becomes bowel routine time, they have to 
BORROW a rehab shower chair from another floor because most floors don't even 
have them. We have to make sure each shift has written instuctions to turn me 
and so  on because most are so unfamiliar with Quads.                           
         Dan H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:      Next time John, make sure your doctor places that 
procedure on his medical orders, in detail.
  Violation of doctor's orders, is both a major no no, but also places the 
hospital insurance at risk.
  Actually this would apply to anyone in need of this invasive procedure as 
part of your bowel management program.
   
  Best Wishes
   
    In a message dated 8/29/2008 2:48:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
      The nurses at hospitals are well aware of what digital stimulation is. I 
have had them sumarily refuse to do it. I no longer go to hospitals. I think it 
is bad form for the medical community to put that many incompetent people in 
one place. Since I only have Medicare and Medicaid my treatment in hospitals 
would be similar to a convicts treatment and the legal aid society. I figure if 
at some point, I might be dying, why would I want to be humiliated, too. They 
regard so many patients with contempt and I don't have a family to come and do 
the stuff the nurses forget. 
  It has all gone downhill so bad. At one time it was a miracle I was alive. 
Last time in the hospital, I was treated like I was interrupting their coffee 
break, and I never was given a nurse call button I could use.
  I get better treatment for pneumonia from agency nurses. 
  I'll stop my rant now.
  I'm really very jealous of you with tight families and health insurance is 
what it amounts to. I'm so afraid that the next time they will dump me on skid 
row that I filled out a DNR. 
   
  Take care,
  john  

  
  ----- Original Message ----
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:46:53 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] BP problem

  I have had aides in the past massage my stomach, she also said that you need 
to eat, before your BP.  She had just learned that in one of her medical 
classes at KU.  I often did not eat in the morning at that time.  Oatmeal is 
also good for dieting and so easy to fix.  I usually try to eat low-fat meals 
and salads every evening meal with light or no fat dressing .  I have also 
noticed that eating oatmeal is a good promoter and also bran cereal and 
vegetables.  If I go one day without my bowels working, I usually know there is 
something wrong.  This is what happens before I get blockages, which are no fun 
at all.  I was on Miralax for a couple months.  I like it because it is gentle, 
not causing accidents or stomach pain, like I sometimes had with Ducolax pills. 
 I think it is good to keep Miralax on hand so you have if needed.  It takes 
about 24 hours to work, or it did for me. They also gave me very large glasses 
of prune juice with Milk of Magnesia, which finally worked
 after a number of days and my stomach the size of a basketball.  It was very 
uncomfortable.  I don't think the hospital was doing my bp correctly.  They did 
not understand digitals.  I don't know what would've happened if my mother 
would not have been there.  I tried to explain, but that did not help.  I have 
been eating bran chex, since my hospitalization for pneumonia the end of 
February and I believe it really helps.  I eat a half a cup each morning..
   
  What do other persons do?
  Dana

     Good Advice John and I hope our friend with the PIE system is still 
watching over us.  A missed day
  or two is not the end of the world, but keep in mind that you have some make 
up to do once the bowel cuts loose. Your diet and condition of your body are 
two things to consider.  Eat the proper foods and the correct amounts and all 
should be ok.  However if you have been binging three meals a day at the local 
buffet, then I would have some concerns.  I once remember a Chiropractor that 
once claimed that he could massage the stomach/bowel area and cause or create a 
bowel movement.  How he did it I'll never know.  It was his claim.
  That oatmeal in the morning or at night is great roughage on the body and it 
absorbs excess acids and toxins as it travels thru your system.  Just ask John, 
lol.
   
  Best Wishes and a smooth movement for you.
  W
   
    In a message dated 8/28/2008 1:12:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
      I went 10 days once after surgery. That Enema machine that one dude was 
pushing would be nice. 
First thing you do is relax. Do not get upset, you aren't a clock. If you have 
Mirilax,(Glyco-lax) double your dose. If you haven't got it, get it and use it. 
made about when he lies Your bowels will misfire even if your not a quad.

  
Best wishes,
john


  ----- Original Message ----
From: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:55:52 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] BP problem

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   }        After trying to do your bowel program and not having results. 
What¢s the longest you have gone with no go?
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