no, guarantee i'd b on the horn, they'd thought it was a biker rally...normal 
body people suk, (if they want 2 b included)

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wheelch...@aol.com 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators


  Hey Ron, are you sure that it wasn't another cop as in the Blue Code?
  His Chief might have handled it differently, but I can only guess........

  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 1/24/2009 9:16:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

          Hey guys,

          I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that 
happenned to me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle 
was parked in the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they 
have. I pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 
inches from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the 
prob. Ten minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all 
the time and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if 
they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it 
back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him 
outside. I later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was 
laughing about the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it 
again. So....in short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined 
off sections so dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time this 
happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to kick over the 
20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.

          Ron c7                               

            Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of 
motor vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias 
on them) out like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

            The problem with "bills being passed" -- is whether they are 
actually enforced or not.  Unfortunately usually not.  

            Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a "retirement attraction city" and 
they are also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet 
not recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and 
therefore cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the 
population doubles between October and May or somewhere around there!  
Therefore the traffic doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who 
seem not to even know where they are let alone get back to their car and be on 
the road!  Scary!

            I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New 
York state and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying "There 
ought to be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of 
xx!!!" I can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a 
certain age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people 
should not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to 
themselves.

            Lori

            On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius <quad...@gmail.com> wrote:

              This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in 
the disabled spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to 
take it disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals 
who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.

              There are those occasions where I do need to park in an 
accessible spot so that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels 
like to be driving around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people 
are ensconced in them.
              Quadius


              On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn <kult...@yahoo.com> 
wrote:

                Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been 
unable to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access 
area.  Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and 
policemen will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them 
to, as they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  

                One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned 
was adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a 
policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other 
handicap spots available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, 
"don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him 
the right to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).  
Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being 
+300lbs) actually said, "you handicapped people think you're so special."  I 
could go on.  I was never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I 
usually got in return was far, far from it.  I guess that reflects the type of 
people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.




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                From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
                To: kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; 
quad-list@eskimo.com
                Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
                Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
                Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators



                A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay 
off the National Debt, in just under 3 years.
                Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks 
too.
                Let's get the program in gear!
                Best Wishes
                W

                In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard 
Time, kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
                  
http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/

                  Bill targets handicapped parking violators
                  BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
                  The Post and Courier
                  Monday, January 19, 2009


                  Special Section:
                  Watchdog

                  People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. 
Drivers park in the striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And 
confusion abounds over who is responsible for catching violators.

                  "There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap 
placards, parking in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not 
entitled to," said Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.

                  Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both 
Democrats, introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the 
process of acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed the 
legislation twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times, Sheheen said.

                  Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic 
chapter of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record keeping is part 
of the problem.

                  "There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the 
physician who writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.

                  A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of 
Motor Vehicles does not record physicians' information, leaving no way to check 
whether a physician actually filled out the form. The bill would connect those 
dots with a form that will stay on file with the DMV.

                  The proposed law also would redefine a person with a 
disability.

                  "The current law may not include a person with Multiple 
Sclerosis because they may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many 
people with MS suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the day.

                  And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the 
placard with an identification card, which law enforcement personnel could look 
at and match.

                  Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would 
like to see more clarification in the law regarding who has jurisdiction for 
enforcement.

                  "Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking 
lots. Others say it's private property," Jacildone said.

                  "We would also like to see more language about access 
aisles," she said.

                  Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated 
spaces. That aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and 
out of their wheelchair or scooter.

                  Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or jco...@postandcourier.com.







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