I must admit that there have been times when I've accidently on
purpose dented or scratched the offending vehicle while 'trying' to
enter or exit my van. If more of us did this, perhaps these idiots
would give us the exaggerated space they do when they meet us on the sidewalk.
Dan
At 10:19 PM 1/19/2009, bob quinn said something that elicited my response:
Yes, I have taken to parking defensively. Nonetheless, when I see
people parking over the yellow lines, I will take the time (as
nicely as possible) to educate them. Some people don't mind my
imposition, some actually thank me, but the majority get angry,
defensive and dismissive. I don't mind, though. I accept and
embrace my role as The Angry Crip (aka, the grouchy guy in a
wheelchair). I have to believe it helps, even if only a
little. Its a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it. 8-)
From: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:46:10 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
I have a side entry van and deal with violators parking in the hash
lines as well. I purchased a magnetic sign that says, please do not
block the wheelchair lift, I attach this when I think I will b
blocked. This sometimes isnt enough so Ill pull in the spot diagonal
and take up a small portion of the front hash. If I find no handicap
spots available and go towards the back and take up two spots. The
police are lil help and talking to people will get you called an
angry cripple .What it comes down to is people dont respect handicap
spots because police seldom enforce handicap violations. If your
gonna drve a side entry van all I can say is you have to anticipate
a prob and be proactive. It sucks, but will get better over time.
Ron c7
--- On Mon, 1/19/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:57 PM
It's pretty tough to 'train' some people. There a few groups who
firmly believe the rest of us 'owe' them something usually because
we have something they don't. My 6 year old grand daughter firmly
believes that if I give her one thing and her step sister the exact
same thing, that's not fair. These feelings of what's fair have
deep seeded roots for sure.
Check my observances -->
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In a message dated 1/19/2009 3:08:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable
to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped
access area. Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think
its parkable and policemen will not ticket someone with a placard
parked there (I've asked them to, as they helped push my van out so
I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was
adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard),
saying a policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when
there are no other handicap spots available. Another (able-bodied)
guy said without apology, "don't get me started, my wife has Lou
Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right to park anywhere in
a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another guy with a
placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs)
actually said, "you handicapped people think you're so special." I
could go on. I was never anything but respectful in all encounters,
but what I usually got in return was far, far from it. I guess that
reflects the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off
the National Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/>http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/
Bill targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
The Post and Courier
Monday, January 19, 2009
Special Section:
Watchdog
People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park
in the striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And
confusion abounds over who is responsible for catching violators.
"There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards,
parking in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not
entitled to," said Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.
Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats,
introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the
process of acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed
the legislation twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times,
Sheheen said.
Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic
chapter of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record
keeping is part of the problem.
"There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the
physician who writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.
A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of Motor
Vehicles does not record physicians' information, leaving no way to
check whether a physician actually filled out the form. The bill
would connect those dots with a form that will stay on file with the DMV.
The proposed law also would redefine a person with a disability.
"The current law may not include a person with Multiple Sclerosis
because they may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many
people with MS suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the day.
And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the
placard with an identification card, which law enforcement personnel
could look at and match.
Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would like to
see more clarification in the law regarding who has jurisdiction for
enforcement.
"Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking lots.
Others say it's private property," Jacildone said.
"We would also like to see more language about access aisles," she said.
Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated spaces.
That aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and
out of their wheelchair or scooter.
Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or [email protected].
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