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In a message dated 1/20/2009 11:12:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: They will have to get by my PCA cadre first. ;) Bring em on. Dan At 10:53 AM 1/20/2009, [email protected] said: more likely you will get thrown from your chair by the irate owner since putting together scratches and parking 5 feet away from anyone is beyond their comprehention levels.  they will however not hold back retaliating against a cripple for defiling their golden charriot. -----Original Message----- From: Dan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 8:02 am Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators I must admit that there have been times when I've accidently on purpose dented or scratched the offending vehicle while 'trying' to enter or exit my van. If more of us did this, perhaps these idiots would give us the exaggerated space they do when they meet us on the sidewalk. Dan At 10:19 PM 1/19/2009, bob quinn said something that elicited my response:  Yes, I have taken to parking defensively. Nonetheless, when I see people parking over the yellow lines, I will take the time (as nicely as possible) to educate them. Some people don't mind my imposition, some actually thank me, but the majority get angry, defensive and dismissive. I don't mind, though. I accept and embrace my role as The Angry Crip (aka, the grouchy guy in a wheelchair). I have to believe it helps, even if only a little. Its a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it. 8-) From: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:46:10 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators I have a side entry van and deal with violators parking in the hash lines as well. I purchased a magnetic sign that says, please do not block the wheelchair lift, I attach this when I think I will b blocked. This sometimes isnt enough so Ill pull in the spot diagonal and take up a small portion of the front hash. If I find no handicap spots available and go towards the back and take up two spots. The police are lil help and talking to people will get you called an angry cripple .What it comes down to is people dont respect handicap spots because police seldom enforce handicap violations. If your gonna drve a side entry van all I can say is you have to anticipate a prob and be proactive. It sucks, but will get better over time.  Ron c7 --- On Mon, 1/19/09, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Cc: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:57 PM It's pretty tough to 'train' some people. There a few groups who firmly believe the rest of us 'owe' them something usually because we have something they don't.  My 6 year old grand daughter firmly believes that if I give her one thing and her step sister the exact same thing, that's not fair.  These feelings of what's fair have deep seeded roots for sure. Check my observances --> _HC Parking in Glendale AZ_ (http://ocgrands.com/hcpark/index.html) AZDAVE  Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space _DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/)  In a message dated 1/19/2009 3:08:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into20my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area. Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down). One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, "don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually said, "you handicapped people think you're so special." I could go on. I was never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in return was far, far from it. I guess that reflects the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one. From: "[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) " <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ; [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ; _quad [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Cc: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the National Debt, in just under 3 years. Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too. Let's get the program in gear! Best Wishes W  In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: _http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_v iolato68834/_ (http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/) Bill targets handicapped parking violators BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT) The Post and Courier Monday, January 19, 2009 Special Section: Watchdog People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in the striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And confusion abounds over who is responsible for catching violators. "There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not entitled to," said Sen. Vincent20Sheheen of Camden. Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats, introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the process of acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed the legislation twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times, Sheheen said. Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic chapter of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record keeping is part of the problem. "There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the physician who writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said. A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of Motor Vehicles does not record physicians' information, leaving no way to check whether a physician actually filled out the form. The bill would connect those dots with a form that will stay on file with the DMV. The proposed law also would redefine a person with a disability. "The current law may not include a person with Multiple Sclerosis because they may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many people with MS suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the day. And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the placard with an identification card, which law enforcement personnel could look at and match. Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would like to see more clarification in=2 0the law regarding who has jurisdiction for enforcement. "Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking lots. Others say it's private property," Jacildone said. "We would also like to see more language about access aisles," she said. Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated spaces. That aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and out of their wheelchair or scooter. 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