I wonder if the police show up to those properties to arrest shoplifters and
take reports on other crimes?
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:35 PM, John S. <[email protected]> wrote:

> The joke in Ohio is that most parking lots are on private property and cops
>
> do NOT enforce parking lot rules on private property.
> john
>
> --- On *Mon, 1/19/09, RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
> From: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:46 PM
>
>
>    I have a side entry van and deal with violators parking in the hash
> lines as well. I purchased a magnetic sign that says,  please do not block
> the wheelchair lift, I attach this when I think I will b blocked. This
> sometimes isnt enough so Ill pull in the spot diagonal and take up a small
> portion of the front hash. If I find no handicap spots available and go
> towards the back and take up two spots. The police are lil help and talking
> to people will get you called an angry cripple .What it comes down to is
> people dont respect handicap spots because police seldom enforce handicap
> violations. If your gonna drve a side entry van all I can say is you have to
> anticipate a prob and be proactive. It sucks, but will get better over time.
>
> Ron c7
>
> --- On *Mon, 1/19/09, [email protected] <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:57 PM
>
>  It's pretty tough to 'train' some people.  There a few groups who firmly
> believe the rest of us 'owe' them something usually because we have
> something they don't.   My 6 year old grand daughter firmly believes that if
> I give her one thing and her step sister the exact same thing,  that's not
> fair.   These feelings of what's fair have deep seeded roots for sure.
> Check my observances --> HC  Parking in Glendale 
> AZ<http://ocgrands.com/hcpark/index.html>
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>  In a message dated 1/19/2009 3:08:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>  Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get
> into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even
> non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen
> will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as
> they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
>
> One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant
> about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a
> policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other
> handicap spots available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology,
> "don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him
> the right to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).
> Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being
> +300lbs) actually said, "you handicapped people think you're so special."  I
> could go on.  I was never anything but respectful in all encounters, but
> what I usually got in return was far, far from it.  I guess that reflects
> the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
>
> A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the
> National Debt, in just under 3 years.
> Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
> Let's get the program in gear!
> Best Wishes
> W
>
>  In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/
>
> Bill targets handicapped parking violators
> BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
> The Post and Courier
> Monday, January 19, 2009
>
>
> Special Section:
> Watchdog
>
> People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in the
> striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And confusion abounds over
> who is responsible for catching violators.
>
> "There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking
> in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not entitled to,"
> said Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.
>
> Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats,
> introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the process of
> acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed the legislation
> twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times, Sheheen said.
>
> Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic chapter of
> the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record keeping is part of the
> problem.
>
> "There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the physician who
> writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.
>
> A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of Motor Vehicles
> does not record physicians' information, leaving no way to check whether a
> physician actually filled out the form. The bill would connect those dots
> with a form that will stay on file with the DMV.
>
> The proposed law also would redefine a person with a disability.
>
> "The current law may not include a person with Multiple Sclerosis because
> they may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many people with MS
> suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the day.
>
> And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the placard with
> an identification card, which law enforcement personnel could look at and
> match.
>
> Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would like to see
> more clarification in the law regarding who has jurisdiction for
> enforcement.
>
> "Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking lots. Others
> say it's private property," Jacildone said.
>
> "We would also like to see more language about access aisles," she said.
>
> Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated spaces. That
> aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and out of their
> wheelchair or scooter.
>
> Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or [email protected].
>
>
>
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