Ron -- Maybe a quick conference with an attorney will tell you if the police
must file a report and/or citation. If so, filing a suit alleging the police
officer did not fulfill his duties might be the only way to get their attention
and force them to enforce.
Maybe there *is* a certain amount of discretion allowed by the responding
officer ... like the Harly was mostly in a parking spot but protuding into the
stripes they can "forgive." On the other hand, in some places just parking
with your tires -ON- the line between spaces will get you a citation.
I know in any accident you should always demand that citation is issued... that
way there's a formal record. Same should be done with parking violations...
the Harley rider and Officer can then explain to a judge why a fine should be
waived!!
It's an unfortunate reality -- Using The Law is the only *real* recourse we
have... without getting cited ourselves.
Best to All,
--Tod
---- RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me
> thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in
> the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I
> pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches
> from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob.
> Ten minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the
> time and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if
> they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it
> back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him
> outside. I later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was
> laughing about the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it
> again. So....in short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined
> off sections so dirtbags will continue to park
> there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a
> friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
>
> Ron c7
>
>
>
> Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor
> vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on
> them) out like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
>
> The problem with "bills being passed" -- is whether they are actually
> enforced or not. Unfortunately usually not.
>
> Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a "retirement attraction city" and they are
> also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not
> recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and
> therefore cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the
> population doubles between October and May or somewhere around there!
> Therefore the traffic doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who
> seem not to even know where they are let alone get back to their car and be
> on the road! Scary!
>
> I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state
> and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying "There ought to
> be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!!" I
> can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a certain
> age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should
> not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to
> themselves.
>
> Lori
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius <quad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled
> spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it
> disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who
> drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.
>
> There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so
> that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving
> around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in
> them.
> Quadius
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn <kult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get
> into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area. Even
> non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen
> will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as
> they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
>
> One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant
> about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman
> had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap
> spots available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, "don't get
> me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right
> to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another
> guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs)
> actually said, "you handicapped people think you're so special." I could go
> on. I was never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I
> usually got in return was far, far from it. I guess that reflects the type
> of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
> To: kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
> Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
>
>
>
>
>
> A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the
> National Debt, in just under 3 years.
> Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
> Let's get the program in gear!
> Best Wishes
> W
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
> http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/
>
> Bill targets handicapped parking violators
> BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
> The Post and Courier
> Monday, January 19, 2009
>
>
> Special Section:
> Watchdog
>
> People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in the
> striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And confusion abounds over
> who is responsible for catching violators.
>
> "There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking in
> spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not entitled to," said
> Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.
>
> Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats,
> introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the process of
> acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed the legislation
> twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times, Sheheen said.
>
> Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic chapter of the
> National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record keeping is part of the
> problem.
>
> "There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the physician who
> writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.
>
> A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of Motor Vehicles
> does not record physicians' information, leaving no way to check whether a
> physician actually filled out the form. The bill would connect those dots
> with a form that will stay on file with the DMV.
>
> The proposed law also would redefine a person with a disability.
>
> "The current law may not include a person with Multiple Sclerosis because
> they may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many people with MS
> suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the day.
>
> And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the placard with an
> identification card, which law enforcement personnel could look at and match.
>
> Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would like to see more
> clarification in the law regarding who has jurisdiction for enforcement.
>
> "Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking lots. Others say
> it's private property," Jacildone said.
>
> "We would also like to see more language about access aisles," she said.
>
> Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated spaces. That
> aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and out of their
> wheelchair or scooter.
>
> Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or jco...@postandcourier.com.
>
>
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