In response to the information that some Quadra family Macs are not able to
take full advantage of 64MB SIMMs, Paul Stamsen wrote:

>  I take it the Performa, among the 630 series, is the stated
>exception - since mine clearly recognized and used a 64-meg chip?

Yes, the 630 family Macs are among those which perform beyond Apple spec,
and they are able to fully access 64MB SIMMs.

One caution however: If you have installed a PPC upgrade card (Power Card),
you will encounter an anomaly. The PPC card does not recognize 64MB SIMMs,
and it will revert to a default value of *16MB* (16MB + 4MB on the
motherboard = 20MB total). When you switch back to the '040 side of things
all 64MB are available, but you are probably better off in this case with
the Apple specified max of 32MB, as these SIMMs will be properly recognized
on BOTH sides of the processor fence.

We hashed this out in the brawling, sprawling, rhyming 'n weaving, early
days of the Quadlist -- but I don't generally see anyone now thinking to
mention this exception whenever the 64MB Question is asked, so I think it
bears repeating.

On the other hand, if anyone has SINCE had success using a 64MB SIMM with a
PPC upgrade card, please speak up!

--------------------------------
On a side thread:

Recently on Quadlist, in response to the original question in the thread
about using a 64MB SIMM in a C610, someone included this line:
"No, 68k Macs do not support Simms bigger than 32MB"

In turn, the line was highlighted and resent to the list, and appended with
this rejoinder:
"This is 100% false."

No other comment, only "...100% false" --

I wrote back to say that I thought the _first_ post was more relevant to
the question asked. At worst it was only imprecise, not "100% false". I
suggested that it could be corrected easily to read:
"No, _this_ 68K Mac (as is the case with most others) does not support SIMMs
bigger than 32MB"

Which was followed today by this response:
"Which is what was said in the first place when the question was answered
two days ago."

*******
I ask your forbearance in recapping all the above; I only do this by way of
suggesting that sometimes more experienced members of the list may mislead
less experienced readers by engaging in snappy rejoinders, such that might
be appropriate and enjoyable in a smaller, more 'clubby' atmosphere where
everyone knows one another and shares similar status. Although the first
response was imprecise (flatly stating that 68k Macs do not access larger
SIMMs rather than noting only that _most_ do not), it was closer to
answering the _real_ question asked. To say that the answer was "100%
false" is hyperbole, and I DO understand the attraction of hyperbole among
the tech savvy. But I felt that the rejoinder was more misleading to a
newcomer than the original (albeit, imprecise) statement.

I don't mean to chide in any way. But part of the charm of the Quadlist is
the rough and tumble mix of experienced and inexperienced people sharing a
run-on conversation about our much loved '040s. A friendly but salty
putdown, all in good fun, *among friends*, can refresh us all (and whatever
did happen to the Serker, Scott Barber?). But it requires a light touch.

I urge the more experienced people on the list to ask themselves first
whether they just _might_ be, in the end, more indulgent and misleading
than helpful when snapping an irresitable slap shot. Even if it CAN,
oftimes, be fun (at least for one).



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