I think that a single daemon approach is the way to go.  Code churn, memory
pressure, more complicated startup/stop scenarios, and lots of work that
can be done to improve daemon performance don't lead me to believe that I
think it is a good idea at this time.

donald

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Paul Jakma <[email protected]> wrote:

> One of the key questions for me is whether the two approaches can live
> together.
>
> I have scripts semi-hacked together to run Quagga daemons in different
> VRFs^Wnamespaces - I use a number as the namespace name, so it's like a VRF
> id. The script configures namespaces and launches daemons with a ZServ
> path-name with the VRF ID in the path. You can then 'telnet $DAEMON
> $(($DAEMON_BASE+$VRF*10))' or somesuch to access the ui. I havn't gotten
> setting of inter-networking between the VRFs nicely scripted yet.
>
> At some point that really should become a proper VRF management daemon.
> That seems a sensible way forward for the daemon-set-per-VRF approach.
>
> (The mass of telnet UIs is not brilliant, vtysh doesn't do multi-instance.
> We should consider fixing that - I'm sure this has come up a few times over
> many years now, no one has been willing to grasp the nettle).
>
> Will this co-exist together with the single-set approach?
>
> If people run set-per-VRF, then they're going to have VRF related commands
> within the inside-VRF instances as things stand. Bit confusing UI wise. The
> zebra in the netns would say it supported VRFs in the netns (I think Linux
> namespaces are nestable that way, I thnk - but not sure we should do that
> for Quagga's VRF abstraction).
>
> I'm just very unclear on the big picture. How do we fit everything
> together in a way that doesn't end up a mess for the user?
>
> regards,
> --
> Paul Jakma      [email protected]  @pjakma Key ID: 64A2FF6A
> Fortune:
> Serfs up!
>                 -- Spartacus
>
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