On 12 Jan 2017, at 14:33, Paul Jakma wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Martin Winter wrote:

1.5 years? I must have missed 1 year of this.

David was __suspended__ from Quagga in May '15. A majority of the other maintainers had serious concerns about some acts. He was asked to explain a series of unilateral actions he'd taken, either against the settled view of the maintainers or where it was obvious he was acting against. Including his having *unilaterally* removed another maintainer.

Only 1 maintainer has ever been kicked out of Quagga, while it was running under a collective maintainer model anyway[1]. And it was _not_ David.

“suspended” vs “kicked off”

Interesting wording is all I can say.

He gave an initial response, and we waited for a full response. And.,.. nothing. He just went away. However, after some weeks, I heard NetDEF were pitching around for a fork.

This was discussed over weeks before. No need to bring it all back. Everyone interested, look at archive and build
your own opinion.

So that's June / July '15 to date. I make that 1.5 years ago. But I have struggled with a shared understanding of basic terms with others in NetDEF before (e.g. "consensus"), so maybe my notion of calendars is wrong too.

People asked me (and others) about forking Quagga since I got involved (short term back compared to you - only 2011) That doesn’t mean that there were plans for it. I wanted to avoid it and we tried to the best of our abilities to
avoid it.
But last summer it became clear that it was unavoidable to get faster progress.

1. Note: as of a few weeks ago, I am the executive maintainer of Quagga.
   An interim measure hopefully, if there are enough people still
   interested in Quagga.

Thanks for this note. This is what I call “transparency”. Not sure what “executive maintainer” means, but I assume something like “chief maintainer” with sole decision authority ?

Or did I get this wrong?

- Martin

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