T’other way round, Zetec bottom end, CVH top

 

CVH head is tuneable, and Zetec bottom end fairly strong. No doubt the ZVH
runners will be able to add more

 

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 engine options

 


Hi. 
I am aware a ZVH is a combination of Zetec & CVH.  Am I right in thinking
the Head is Zetec, and the block is CVH?  If so, won't the top rail of the
subframe need modifying?  Or does Andy's Turbo frame already have this
feature?  If it's the other way round, i.e. Zetec block / CVH head then
what's the point, is the zetec block superior? 
Cheers 
Mark 
  




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A ZVH uses CVH pulleys so doesn't need any frame mods on the side.

Jim


Matthew wrote:
> You mentioned you didn't fancy doing the zetec engine due to frame 
> mods... However if you've a turbo frame already then you could do what 
> Mark did to fit the Zetec into his saloon (pulleys are the same as 
> ZVH).  You'd be doing those on a ZVH anyway I think.  Guess it depends 
> how much you want a turbo motor.
>  
> Odd Mike told you to talk to Vulcan!  Still be interested to see one 
> of his 1800 turbo engines going though.  Maybe he doesn't want to do 
> CVH anymore for some reason.  (I got zetec parts from him)
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
>
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>     *From:* [email protected]
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andy Haworth
>     *Sent:* 21 October 2008 22:16
>     *To:* [email protected]
>     *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 engine options
>
>     Just standard FRST breathers on mine, replaced the pot and
>     pipework and it was still doing it, so it was pointing at rings
>     really as the old block was fairly high miles
>      
>     I'm probably going to go down the more conventional route of
>     another CVH if I can re-use the old block with the new crank,
>     pistons, rods etc. If not, then I'm likely looking at a ZVH
>     turbo conversion, I've picked up a lead for someone who's happy to
>     convert and fit and has done it to his own car as well, which is a
>     glimmer of hope.
>      
>     I talked to Mike at Ferriday a while ago, and he gave me Vulcan's
>     number...? Make of that what you will!
>      
>     TonyV - thanks for jumping in with the offer, but I'd need to
>     drill a CPS hole and rebuild which puts me roughly where I am now.
>     To be fair I'm probably looking at new build for this car,and it's
>     more of an urgent requirement. I am looking at another project 2+2
>     though, so let me know when you do get around to your engine swap
>     and there could be a deal to be done on the lot
>      
>      
>     Andy
>
>     On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>         Blackbird engine, I'd say no.  You have to really rev bike
>         engines to get decent torque figures, and it only gets to 90.4
>         ft/lbs anyway, so not all that good in a 900 KG car.  You need
>         to keep them revving high so you get poor fuel economy,
>         although that might not be a concern.
>          
>         I assume you'd use the bike gear box, which has no reverse
>         gear, so you need to add one of those unless you fancy pushing
>         it instead.  The bike boys out in Ireland this year seemed to
>         find it a pain in 400KG cars
>          
>         My personal dealings with Specialised Engines would recommend
>         you *not* to go there.
>          
>         How about talking to Mike Tanski?  He's the guy at Ferriday
>         engineering.  Seems a genuine and nice enough guy.  Quite a
>         few people have got CVH engines from him.  How about a nice
>         1.8 CVH turbo?  Take a look at his website here :-
>          <http://www.ferriday.co.uk/performance/cvh.shtml>
http://www.ferriday.co.uk/performance/cvh.shtml
>          
>         Out of interest what was your breather setup?  I had a few
>         troubles with the Zetec Turbo blowing oil out at first until I
>         modified the breathers for the turbo application.
>          
>         Matthew
>          
>          
>          
>
>
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>             *From:* [email protected]
>             < <mailto:[email protected]>
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>             [mailto:[email protected]
>             < <mailto:[email protected]>
mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
>             *Andy Haworth
>             *Sent:* 21 October 2008 19:17
>             *To:* [email protected]
>             < <mailto:[email protected]>
mailto:[email protected]>
>             *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] 2+2 engine options
>
>             I'm at a crossroads with the 2+2 at the moment. I'd done a
>             FRST conversion and blew the oil cap off a couple of times
>             after cleaning the breathers. A compression test wasnt
>             possible as there was a spark plug cross threaded
>              
>             So that led me to getting a head reconditioned, and if a
>             new head was going on, may as well get a new (rebuilt)
>             CVH block too as the rings were suspect.
>              
>             After skimming the new block, rebuilding it, finding the
>             crank was stiff, having that reground and everything built
>             back up again we then find out the block's cracked. So,
>             I'm hoping the old engine hasnt been rebored, that we can
>             do that to +.5mm, and fit all the "new" stuff into the old
>             block, refit to the car and away we go. If the old engine
>             has been rebored, there's not a lot around for +1mm
>             pistons and I'd need to start thinking about something else.
>              
>             I dont really want to go full Zetec (too much chopping and
>             the subframes are expensive). Not keen on an ebay CVH and
>             not really having the £2k kicking around to give to
>             Specialised Engines has left me in a bit of a predicament.
>             No-one locally seems to want to get involved in a ZVH
>             turbo even if everything's provided.
>              
>             In the middle of the conversation, one of the engine guys
>             casually dropped in that he'd be able to spec an 1100
>             Blackbird engine as an option. I'd have thought a 2+2 is a
>             bit heavy for this - anyone considered it a bit more
>             seriously than my fag packet calculations?
>              
>              
>             TIA
>              
>              
>             Andy
>
>
>             >




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