actually, forget everything ive said, ive had a better poke about at
the pump and if im correct it would appear to have an outlet already
on it for this purpose?

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didn't seem obvious as I was expecting a hose union to have a beaded
edge but if this is indeed what im after it looks like I can use a
flexi hose and then route this outlet to the matrix side of things,
just one issue in that the matrix hoses are 16mm and this outlet is
24mm, still you cant have everything

On 22 Sep, 19:38, jin <[email protected]> wrote:
> cheers for that Jim, your know how is invaluable,
> so since im left with the prospect of fitting the extra hoses and at
> least linking the matrix hoses for the time being (ill probably fit
> one in the end) im still left with trying to fit the bottom hose to
> the rad and pump and the hose I have does not fit so a flexi hose
> seems to be my best answer short of cobbling 2 - 3 separate bends
> together with a 16mm take off where id like to reduce the number of
> connections if possible.
>
> since the Tee off the bottom hose is very close to the 16mm port on
> the same side of the rad that the bottom hose fits too would it be
> plausible to add a Tee into that port (on the side of the rad that is
> about half way up) and use that as the feed for the manifold / matrix?
>
> cheers for the input
>
> On 22 Sep, 10:16, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >   Even for a summer car i'd still keep the heater for cold mornings.
>
> > If i understand you correctly it won't work, the connection on the stat
> > is about the same pressure as that in the inlet manifold so you'd muck
> > up the coolant flow in the engine.
>
> > The only place there is a big pressure difference is across the radiator
> > so you need the matrix/inlet manifold connection on the pump side of the
> > rad not the stat side.
>
> > There are 3 parallel cooling circuits on the CVH and for that matter the
> > Zetec though it is more obvious on the Zetec and on the Zetec circuit 2
> > is blocked off when the stat is open.
>
> > 1. Radiator: From the pump to the radiator, through the stat and back to
> > the block.
> > 2. Bypass:    From the pump to the inlet manifold and back to the block,
> > this circuit ensures that there is a minimum flow through the water pump
> > when the stat is shut.
> > 3. Heater:   From the pump to to the heater, then back to the block.
>
> > When the stat is shut 2 and 3 ensure there is a minimum water flow
> > through the pump, without then and the stat shut you can get cavitation
> > in the pump as it tries to work but can't move and water.
>
> > If you don't want the heater then you still need to link the 2 pipes as
> > a minimum.
>
> > You can get the correct hose for your pump arrangement, either that or
> > change the water pump.
>
> > Jim
>
> > On 22/09/2010 06:55, jin wrote:
>
> > > hi all, just a quick 1 (I hope)
>
> > > ive got a bottom rad hose but it wont fit, I think its because my pump
> > > outlet is angled upwards rather than at 90 deg to the block, so this
> > > leaves me trying to connect the rad to pump using another means but
> > > this leaves the 16mm outlet that would go to the matrix needing
> > > fitting, however I don't have a matrix and don't want one (summer car)
> > > so this would leave me connecting it to the stat housing direct but
> > > then I remembered the manifold connection too
>
> > > so taking into account no matrix would it be ok to use a universal
> > > flexi from the pump to rad and just connecting the inlet manifold to
> > > the stat housing direct?
> > > it works in my head but my only concern is that the flow wont be being
> > > pumped from the bottom hose directly by the pump to the manifold
>
> > > on the upside it leaves me with a much simpler layout, your thoughts
> > > please
>
> > > p.s if ive got the flow a bit muddled up please bear with me, its been
> > > a long day and im sick of looking at hose diagrams, the crux of the
> > > matter is will the car run ok with the manifold connected to the stat
> > > housing? cheers- Hide quoted text -
>
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