I had a Ford RS kit for my Mk1 Fiesta that had special tie bars with a longer 
section machining so you could adjust the camber with spacing washers.

I did think of using a RS1600i or Mk3 Escort RS Turbo ( i think that was also 
adjustable but different to the RS1600i) setup on my Saloon but i think they 
were silly money even back then.
I seem to remember somebody did it, Eddie maybe.

Jim



From: Darren Siepka 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 12:01 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

On the escort MK3 rs1600i they used adjustable tie bars in place of the anti 
roll bar to permit castor adjustment, with the roll bar attached back to those 
tie bars with clamps. 
As our tie bars are all wiggly(highly technical term there :-) ) they might be 
tricky to modify but some custom ones may be possible if you could just shim as 
Jim suggests.

Darren 

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 11:35 Jim Hearne, <j...@quantums.info> wrote:

  If you want to adjust the caster could you not put spacing washers between 
the anti roll bar / tie bar and the bush in the track control arm ?
  You’d only be able to move the axle to the rear doing that so maybe the wrong 
way.

  Jim


  From: Mick L 
  Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 9:27 AM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

  Yeah it seems to in the mount rubber work as you can hear the squelsh on 
grease I used.


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  From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> on 
behalf of Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info>
  Sent: 04 August 2023 20:24
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts 

  I don't think there should be any play on the Mk1 setup.
  Where is the the play ?, between the shock shaft and the bush in the top 
mount or lower down ?

  I know some modern cars do have a lot of play in the top mount when the car 
is jacked up, like my Wife's Corsa, but it's by design.

  Jim


  On 04/08/2023 21:17, Mick L wrote:

    Hi Jim,

    Yeah ours has the nylon spacers on the top of the mounts already.


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    From: Jim Hearne mailto:j...@quantums.info
    Sent: 04 August 2023 19:59
    To: Mick L mailto:lawson.m...@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts 

    The build manual for the saloon says fit an extra spacer in the Mk2 top 
mount, i guess that would apply to the Mk1 top mount as well.
    Needs somebody with an early saloon build manual where the donor was the 
Mk1 Fiesta.
    Pretty sure the toe is parallel.
    I have camber adjusting bolts on my 2+2, i will see if i can find the 
settings i ended up with.

    Jim



    On 04/08/2023 20:48, Mick L wrote:

      Hello Everyone,

      The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a 
irritating area to tackle.

      First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when 
jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still do 
this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard yet as I 
simply don't think it's ready.

      Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor 
and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a 
re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up. 

      It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not 
meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to get 
it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as on the 
fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as designed.

      Cheers 
      Mick
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