To be quite frank I am starting to think of making my own mount design and getting it made with adjustment both ways.
________________________________ From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info> Sent: 05 August 2023 11:13 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts I had a Ford RS kit for my Mk1 Fiesta that had special tie bars with a longer section machining so you could adjust the camber with spacing washers. I did think of using a RS1600i or Mk3 Escort RS Turbo ( i think that was also adjustable but different to the RS1600i) setup on my Saloon but i think they were silly money even back then. I seem to remember somebody did it, Eddie maybe. Jim From: Darren Siepka Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 12:01 PM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts On the escort MK3 rs1600i they used adjustable tie bars in place of the anti roll bar to permit castor adjustment, with the roll bar attached back to those tie bars with clamps. As our tie bars are all wiggly(highly technical term there :-) ) they might be tricky to modify but some custom ones may be possible if you could just shim as Jim suggests. Darren On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 11:35 Jim Hearne, <j...@quantums.info> wrote: If you want to adjust the caster could you not put spacing washers between the anti roll bar / tie bar and the bush in the track control arm ? You’d only be able to move the axle to the rear doing that so maybe the wrong way. Jim From: Mick L Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 9:27 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts Yeah it seems to in the mount rubber work as you can hear the squelsh on grease I used. ________________________________ From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info> Sent: 04 August 2023 20:24 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts I don't think there should be any play on the Mk1 setup. Where is the the play ?, between the shock shaft and the bush in the top mount or lower down ? I know some modern cars do have a lot of play in the top mount when the car is jacked up, like my Wife's Corsa, but it's by design. Jim On 04/08/2023 21:17, Mick L wrote: Hi Jim, Yeah ours has the nylon spacers on the top of the mounts already. ________________________________ From: Jim Hearne mailto:j...@quantums.info Sent: 04 August 2023 19:59 To: Mick L mailto:lawson.m...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts The build manual for the saloon says fit an extra spacer in the Mk2 top mount, i guess that would apply to the Mk1 top mount as well. Needs somebody with an early saloon build manual where the donor was the Mk1 Fiesta. Pretty sure the toe is parallel. I have camber adjusting bolts on my 2+2, i will see if i can find the settings i ended up with. Jim On 04/08/2023 20:48, Mick L wrote: Hello Everyone, The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a irritating area to tackle. First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard yet as I simply don't think it's ready. Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up. It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as designed. Cheers Mick -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. 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