Our car is a mk2 and the only piece of it mk1 is the mounts so my roll bar etc is the fixed to arm kind from escort. It's jus one or the first few made of the MK2 with the mk1 mounts instead of mk2.
So for me there's no escaping it. I need to find a solution based around the top mount. My castor actually looks ok but I just can't bring myself to part with £159 for fixed mounts from pro comp so may aswell look at the mounts that offer some adjustment. Best I have managed is a symmetrical -2.5 camber. I can't get any less with a match so camber adjustment further would have been ideal. I have to say all these aftermarket companies have poor customer service too and it is really annoying as I'm biting my tongue from telling them where to shove it. Even pro comp simply didn't reply once I send pictures and explained the circular mounts may not fit.... They said they should fit then I said why they may not due to shape and got nothing back.....no easy sale move on, nice. ________________________________ From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Darren Siepka <dar...@siepka.me.uk> Sent: 05 August 2023 11:01 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts On the escort MK3 rs1600i they used adjustable tie bars in place of the anti roll bar to permit castor adjustment, with the roll bar attached back to those tie bars with clamps. As our tie bars are all wiggly(highly technical term there :-) ) they might be tricky to modify but some custom ones may be possible if you could just shim as Jim suggests. Darren On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 11:35 Jim Hearne, <j...@quantums.info<mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote: If you want to adjust the caster could you not put spacing washers between the anti roll bar / tie bar and the bush in the track control arm ? You’d only be able to move the axle to the rear doing that so maybe the wrong way. Jim From: Mick L Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 9:27 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts Yeah it seems to in the mount rubber work as you can hear the squelsh on grease I used. ________________________________ From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> <quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info<mailto:j...@quantums.info>> Sent: 04 August 2023 20:24 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> <quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts I don't think there should be any play on the Mk1 setup. Where is the the play ?, between the shock shaft and the bush in the top mount or lower down ? I know some modern cars do have a lot of play in the top mount when the car is jacked up, like my Wife's Corsa, but it's by design. Jim On 04/08/2023 21:17, Mick L wrote: Hi Jim, Yeah ours has the nylon spacers on the top of the mounts already. ________________________________ From: Jim Hearne mailto:j...@quantums.info Sent: 04 August 2023 19:59 To: Mick L mailto:lawson.m...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts The build manual for the saloon says fit an extra spacer in the Mk2 top mount, i guess that would apply to the Mk1 top mount as well. Needs somebody with an early saloon build manual where the donor was the Mk1 Fiesta. Pretty sure the toe is parallel. I have camber adjusting bolts on my 2+2, i will see if i can find the settings i ended up with. Jim On 04/08/2023 20:48, Mick L wrote: Hello Everyone, The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a irritating area to tackle. First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard yet as I simply don't think it's ready. Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up. It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as designed. Cheers Mick -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. 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