Adjusting tickover was easier than I was expecting, started ,screwed out adjuster 1 turn, let it idle until up to temperature, 1/4 turn out, let it idle and it quickly settled down to nice steady beat, I don't know the exact rpm but it sounds right and tacho shows just under 1k rpm. Thanks for the help. Russ
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:54:19 PM UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote: > Sounds promising. > If the battery has been off then it will take about 20mins for the ECU to > relearn it’s settings. > The idle should adjust itself through the idle control valve unless you > have been adjusting the throttle stop which you shouldn’t really. > You may have fun adjusting it back as the ecu will be fighting you. > > Jim > > > *From:* flob...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2023 3:15 PM > *To:* Quantum Owners Group > *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] H4/Facebook problem > > New crank sensor and blanking plugs fitted, fired up first time revs went > to about 1500 and then died down and settled at 1100 rpm with no misfire; > just need to let it warm up and set idle, haven't time to that today. > Thanks for your help Jim. > Russ > > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 4:03:07 PM UTC+1 flob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Today after taking the cooling fan out I removed the EGR junk and got the >> sensor out working from above without too much difficulty. The new sensor >> and 4 blanking plugs should arrive before the end of the week. >> >> On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 4:45:16 PM UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote: >> >>> Yup, that’s it, its a bit fiddly. >>> Last one i did i did from below, i removed the starter motor bolts and >>> moved the starter to one side. >>> I didn’t disconnect the starter wires as the nuts were so rusty they >>> didn’t look like they would come undo without something breaking. >>> Only 1 bolt (torx unless it’s been changed) holds the black sensor on, >>> the aluminium bit stays on the block and is fitted from inside the gearbox >>> bellhousing >>> The main issue is if the aluminium part has corroded onto the sensor. >>> >>> A lot of people (me included) do remove the EGR, blank off the 4 holes >>> in the exhaust manifold (or get an earlier manifold one without the holes) >>> and remove the gubbins, pipework, differential pressure sensor and i think >>> a solenoid valve. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* flob...@gmail.com >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2023 4:37 PM >>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] H4/Facebook problem >>> >>> Thanks for the advice so far. Today I found the sensor (eventually) it's >>> hidden behind by what appears to be part of an EGR system and just above >>> the starter motor. I see no reason I can't remove the device and blank off >>> the exhaust and inlet manifold connexions, does this seem reasonable? >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:06:46 PM UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, sounds like the TOAD immobilizer is doing what it’s supposed to. >>>> I would put money on the crank sensor given the misfire that isn’t tied >>>> to a specific cylinder. >>>> When they fail they start by misfiring then fail completely when hot. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* flob...@gmail.com >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:42 PM >>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] H4/Facebook problem >>>> >>>> Yes it has a TOAD immobilizer. Have both types of key only ever used >>>> key with red patch. >>>> Tried to start car this morning without unsetting the immobiliser >>>> engine did not start unset immobiliser with fob, engine started first >>>> time >>>> as always, revs up and down but not as bad as previously some misfiring >>>> but >>>> as the temp gauge started to move tickover settled at about 1000 rpm and >>>> engine still missing; waited for engine to stall - it did not, switched >>>> off >>>> and restarted >>>> every time but still misfiring, disconnected one plug at time but >>>> engine still started every time, thought missing was worse when plug 1 or >>>> 4 >>>> disconnected (not really an obvious difference so perhaps just my >>>> imagination) so changed coil pack & leads no difference, forgot to change >>>> plugs, will do that just in case. >>>> >>>> Russ >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:46:35 PM UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ah, no, i got caught out by the reply to group or reply to sender that >>>>> Google does sometimes. >>>>> >>>>> So everybody else can see: >>>>> >>>>> You say you started it without turning the immobilizer off ?, i assume >>>>> this is an after market one and not the PATS system from your donor car. >>>>> Though depending on the age of the donor you may not have PATS, do you >>>>> have a Red key or a Black Key with a red dot on it. >>>>> >>>>> IT could be an after marker immobilizer playing up. >>>>> When it stalls and wont restart, check the voltage on the centre pin >>>>> of the 3 pin plug on the ignition coil, there should be 12 to 13 volts >>>>> there. >>>>> If you still have voltage there i would go back to suspecting the >>>>> crank sensor, the symptoms do fit with that. >>>>> If you have no voltage then suspect the immobilizer, bypass it if you >>>>> can. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 09/10/2023 12:18, Jim Hearne wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I replied to you here last night but that message seems to have >>>>> disappeared as well. >>>>> Have you been upsetting the Internet ! >>>>> >>>>> I will redo the reply later. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* flob...@gmail.com >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 9, 2023 12:10 PM >>>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] H4/Facebook problem >>>>> >>>>> Sorry forgot to add my name to the above post. >>>>> Russ >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:13:06 PM UTC+1 Matthew Wastell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, you are Russ aren’t you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Just checked Facebook group and no Russ has joined in the last month >>>>>> according to the logs. And don’t recall any posts about non starting >>>>>> recently. >>>>>> >>>>>> Were you in this group? >>>>>> Quantum Sports Cars Group >>>>>> <https://m.facebook.com/groups/quantumownersgroup/?ref=share> >>>>>> facebook.com >>>>>> <https://m.facebook.com/groups/quantumownersgroup/?ref=share> >>>>>> [image: TYhiZ_A7dmu.ico] >>>>>> <https://m.facebook.com/groups/quantumownersgroup/?ref=share> >>>>>> <https://m.facebook.com/groups/quantumownersgroup/?ref=share> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck with the car. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 Oct 2023, at 19:08, flob...@gmail.com <flob...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I started a thread on Facebook to which I recv'd several helpful >>>>>> replies about a problem with an H4 but now my facebook account has been >>>>>> suspended, i don't what rule I have broken as I only opened the account >>>>>> this week and that thread was the only one I have commented on so I'll >>>>>> continue on here. >>>>>> I have now checked and there is no spark after engine stalls and i >>>>>> try to restart it, however if the engine stalls after running for a only >>>>>> a >>>>>> few seconds I can restart it. 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