Oh, I just read George's post about the image input patch and realised I was
parroting him, sorry.

On 4 May 2010 15:46, Alastair Leith <qc.student...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't see any great issues with saving input state data to external
> file(s). It provides options for versioning and copying an XML or JSON or
> what have you with a .qtz is no big deal from my perspective.
>
> QC files can save images drop onto them so I don't see why a plug-in can't
> invoke some kind of data bundling(?)  in a similar way. But then I can't
> code Cocoa so what would I know :)
>
> On 3 May 2010 19:14, Achim Breidenbach <ac...@boinx.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello George,
>>
>> the problem I see is that, when you try to save data to the qtz file from
>> a plugin point of view, you don't have any connections back to your
>> container file where your plugin instance was originally extracted from. So
>> I see no way for a plugin to find the host composition file to store data
>> in.
>>
>> Any ideas how to solve this problem?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Achim Breidenbach
>> Boinx Software
>>
>> On 03.05.2010, at 07:29, George Toledo wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jerry Smith <je...@sonsmi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Achim.
>>>
>>> I am writing before coming back to this -- I was thinking there could be
>>> a
>>> solution using logic/conditionals. The Signal patch could trigger a
>>> Sample
>>> and Hold on startup, right? Macros/patches keep their values, so why so
>>> difficult?
>>>
>>
>> Sample and Hold only has a Virtual input. Virtual data isn't able to be
>> stored to file, or in-composition. Trying to store something across Open and
>> Saves with Sample and Hold is going to be a gigantic time burner, and
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> It would be technically possible to have a version of Sample and Hold that
>> embedded data in the qtz, and it could do it with any data type, save for
>> Virtual. The Kineme Value Historian is a version of this concept that will
>> store many data types, but not Images, Virtual, Interaction, Structure or
>> other non-standard types. Yes, it does have Virtual Inputs, but stores a few
>> different data types through conversion.
>>
>> I don't think that Value Historian is configured in a way that makes it an
>> instant replacement for Sample and Hold, but you may be able to make it work
>> for you. It could very well be extended to save other data types, and you
>> may want to file a feature request, or request a quote if there is some
>> functionality that you need that isn't there.
>>
>> I don't believe Achim is correct that data cannot be stored in-composition
>> with a custom patch. Any data type is able to be embedded in a qtz, though
>> large file sizes can cause problems when attempting to run the resulting
>> qtz. There shouldn't be a technical problem with recording user data to the
>> actual qtz file, and having a patch have a setting to retrieve that data.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> George Toledo
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