On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jerry Smith <je...@sonsmi.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Achim.
>
> I am writing before coming back to this -- I was thinking there could be a
> solution using logic/conditionals. The Signal patch could trigger a Sample
> and Hold on startup, right? Macros/patches keep their values, so why so
> difficult?
>

Sample and Hold only has a Virtual input. Virtual data isn't able to be
stored to file, or in-composition. Trying to store something across Open and
Saves with Sample and Hold is going to be a gigantic time burner, and
doesn't work.

It would be technically possible to have a version of Sample and Hold that
embedded data in the qtz, and it could do it with any data type, save for
Virtual. The Kineme Value Historian is a version of this concept that will
store many data types, but not Images, Virtual, Interaction, Structure or
other non-standard types. Yes, it does have Virtual Inputs, but stores a few
different data types through conversion.

I don't think that Value Historian is configured in a way that makes it an
instant replacement for Sample and Hold, but you may be able to make it work
for you. It could very well be extended to save other data types, and you
may want to file a feature request, or request a quote if there is some
functionality that you need that isn't there.

I don't believe Achim is correct that data cannot be stored in-composition
with a custom patch. Any data type is able to be embedded in a qtz, though
large file sizes can cause problems when attempting to run the resulting
qtz. There shouldn't be a technical problem with recording user data to the
actual qtz file, and having a patch have a setting to retrieve that data.


Best,
George Toledo
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