Hello George,

the problem I see is that, when you try to save data to the qtz file from a plugin point of view, you don't have any connections back to your container file where your plugin instance was originally extracted from. So I see no way for a plugin to find the host composition file to store data in.

Any ideas how to solve this problem?

Best,

Achim Breidenbach
Boinx Software

On 03.05.2010, at 07:29, George Toledo wrote:


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jerry Smith <je...@sonsmi.com> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Achim.

I am writing before coming back to this -- I was thinking there could be a solution using logic/conditionals. The Signal patch could trigger a Sample and Hold on startup, right? Macros/patches keep their values, so why so
difficult?

Sample and Hold only has a Virtual input. Virtual data isn't able to be stored to file, or in-composition. Trying to store something across Open and Saves with Sample and Hold is going to be a gigantic time burner, and doesn't work.

It would be technically possible to have a version of Sample and Hold that embedded data in the qtz, and it could do it with any data type, save for Virtual. The Kineme Value Historian is a version of this concept that will store many data types, but not Images, Virtual, Interaction, Structure or other non-standard types. Yes, it does have Virtual Inputs, but stores a few different data types through conversion.

I don't think that Value Historian is configured in a way that makes it an instant replacement for Sample and Hold, but you may be able to make it work for you. It could very well be extended to save other data types, and you may want to file a feature request, or request a quote if there is some functionality that you need that isn't there.

I don't believe Achim is correct that data cannot be stored in- composition with a custom patch. Any data type is able to be embedded in a qtz, though large file sizes can cause problems when attempting to run the resulting qtz. There shouldn't be a technical problem with recording user data to the actual qtz file, and having a patch have a setting to retrieve that data.


Best,
George Toledo
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