On 2016-09-27 06:59, 'Gabriel' via qubes-users wrote:
> Hi fellows,
> I started using qubes a while ago and I have a question concerning backups.
> What I want is a complete backup to a dedicated external USB HDD. I 
> understand to achieve this all the VMs must be shut down.
> Therefore when I plugged in the HDD I mounted it in dom0 under /mnt.

>This is fine as long as you trust the USB device you're attaching to dom0. If 
>you don't, consider using a USB qube instead:

The USB device is trsted but I'll consider the usb-cube too.

> Questions:
> 1. When I ran Qubes VM Manager -> Backup VMs, I received an error message 
> stating no place on device and a zero byte backup file. Permissions are OK, 
> there's more than enough space on the HDD.
> Any reasons why the backup did not succeed?

>Are you sure you selected the correct device in the menu?
There was only one option ....

> 2. I tried running qvm-backup from the command line, which ran fine, no 
> permission problems on the same HDD. However, the template VMs are not 
> included by default and I saw no command-line option to automatically achieve 
> this. Am I missing something here?

>The RPM-managed TemplateVMs should normally not be backed up. Instead, you 
>should clone them (if you can spare the drive space), make your 
>customizations, then back up the clones.
Does this imply the AppVMs should be based upon the cloned VMs?

> 3. I know I can manually list all the VMs on the command line to be backed 
> up, but I find that a bit awkward, so I tried this:
> qvm-ls --raw-list | xargs qvm-backup /mnt/test/
> but this threw a Python exception...
> For now I resorted to typing all the VMs by hand ... not elegant.
> Any help is appreciated.

Try this:

$ qvm-backup /mnt/test/ `qvm-ls --raw-list`
This one works nice, thank you.


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