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On 2016-10-14 15:18, raahe...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 6:16:16 PM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 2:36:30 PM UTC-4, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-10-13 03:45, Robert Mittendorf wrote:
>>>>> Am 10/13/2016 um 04:50 AM schrieb raahe...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> feature.  I use to make menu shortcuts to launch programs in dispvms 
>>>>>> inheriting firewall rules.  But xfce only lets you edit already existing 
>>>>>> rules,  not create new ones :(   editing a config file is a little too 
>>>>>> much effort for me lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can edit the rules in Xfce-Dom0 via the Qubes VM Manager?!
>>>>>
>>>>> How can this "feature" be disabled? I want to start a normal DispVM, not 
>>>>> a "special" DispVM.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Use Case: Mail VM is only allowed to access Mail-Server. I want to start 
>>>>> a Browser in DispVM for urls in Mails.
>>>>> This works fine, but those "special" DispVMs have the same limitations. I 
>>>>> want just a normal DispVM like the one started via Dom0. The only way to 
>>>>> achieve this afaik is to let the special DispVM connect to NetVM, so no 
>>>>> ProxyVM is used. But this means that the DispVM has access to the 
>>>>> intranet.....
>>>>>
> 
> This is precisely the use case I described in issue #1296, which I linked in 
> my previous message:
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1296
> 
>>
>> couldn't you just use a normal dispvm then?  meaning why even launch 
>> anything from within an appvm?  Just run it from dom0, like the default 
>> firefox dispvm menu item.
> 
> only reason i'd launch a program in a dispvm from within an appvm,  is to 
> inherit its firewall rules. 
> 

Starting a new DispVM from dom0 and setting its NetVM is a lot more 
labor-intensive than simply clicking a link in an email and having the rest 
work automatically.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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