On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 2:04:43 PM UTC-5, Loren Rogers wrote:
> On 11/21/2016 11:04 AM, Loren Rogers wrote:
> >
> > On 11/21/2016 12:42 AM, Drew White wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 20 November 2016 04:56:03 UTC+11, Loren Rogers  wrote:
> >>> Another correlation I've noticed is that my machine randomly shuts
> >>> itself down without warning when I'm browsing in the Anon-Whonix VM. It
> >>> seems that simply having the Whonix browser open causes the problem.
> >>> I've not been able to pin down an exact cause, but it seems to happen
> >>> after about 5-20min. When this happens, the machine sometimes ends 
> >>> up in
> >>> a hung state (black screen) at the end of the shutdown process.
> >>>
> >>> I've also noticed that the fan speeds up right at it starts to 
> >>> shutdown.
> >>> (The screen turns to the Qubes logo with the progress bar, then the fan
> >>> cranks up.) Sometimes the bar makes it all the way to the end, other
> >>> times it seems to simply crash to a hault. As I mentioned elsewhere, 
> >>> the
> >>> Thinkpad X201t is known to have overheating issues, but I'm not sure if
> >>> this is related. I'm not working the machine particularly hard (just
> >>> browsing articles on the web), and the hardware is not particularly hot
> >>> to the touch.
> >> When it gets to the qubes logo screen, press ESC to see what it's 
> >> actually doing.
> >>
> >> If you wish to always know what it's doing, turn off rhgb and quiet 
> >> in the boot config.
> >>
> >> Then you will see where the issue is.
> >
> > Thanks, I'll give that a shot next time it happens. I feel like it'll 
> > go by too quickly for me to see what's happening; does it also write 
> > its activity to a log somewhere?
> I can now confirm that it's an over heating issue. When it went into the 
> automatic shutdown sequence, I pressed escape and managed to take note 
> of a few of the messages. One of the very first ones was something about 
> "thermal_zone_0 critical temperature reached: 128C", which I assume is 
> the cause. (This isn't an exact quote, since I noted it from memory.)
> This raises some questions:
> - What could be causing this overheating issue in Whonix?
> - Is 128C a normal temperature for the safety shutdown to kick in?
> - Does Qubes have a warning / alert system for potential overheat? (Like 
> low battery)

maybet thats your hdd reported temp?  Fedora use smartctl by default I think?  
could be your hdd is going if its the case.

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