On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:51:06 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> I realize that it is an integral part of fedora and debian (gross), but 
> it is a serious security hole and qubes should consider migrating away 
> from it by maybe choosing another orgin distro.

It would be helpful for you to make clear what exactly in that pile of links is 
a threat to Qubes.

More generally, I think you significantly underestimate the benefits Qubes 
receives from integration with established distributions. These distributions 
have more users, more developers, better infrastructure, etc. All of this 
contributes to security, and the infrastructure is particularly important when 
it comes to trusting the distributions you use for your templates. The 
alternative distributions have much smaller userbases. The same holds true for 
systemd alternatives. How long will OpenRC, or sinit, or uinit, or the latest 
new proposed replacement be supported? Even if systemd has some problems, I 
think the benefits we get from Fedora and Debian outweigh the costs.

Daniel

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