On Friday, 10 March 2017 15:25:26 UTC+11, cooloutac  wrote:
> Well I'm just a layman but from my little experience i prefer systemd cause 
> its easier to handle running system processes. but from bootup time 
> standpoint it seems to make no diff.
> 

systemd is bad, things were simpler and easier without it.


> I dunno what it is. I started linux with fedora but itseems it started to get 
> super buggy after fedora19 to the point I switched to debian and ignored the 
> false extra security I thought it gave me.  I felt like a bigger target using 
> it for some reason.
> 

fedora 19, when they started to bring in systemd on a persons choice?
or was it compulsory by then and no choice?

> I thought problems were due to switch to dnf which just made updates 
> unbearable as if some sick joke on fedora users.  but all sorts of baremetal 
> problems with it.  maybe it was the change to systemd? or Kernels keep 
> getting worse? More people using linux but they don't really use it? lol I 
> dunno I started on Fedora 14 ir 15 not sure when it got systemd actually. 
> Debian is stable and quiet. I made the switch debian.  arch can be real 
> lighweight and less buggy but has same kernel probs as fedora. They similar 
> in ways.  fedora 22 was nail in coffin for me.   Its like let me put a target 
> on my forehead with the word dumb and a bullseye.  One good thing it gets 
> updates super fast.  Alot of qubes user complaints areabout poor support for 
> cutting edge hardware.  Think thats reason qubes uses fedora.  I'd rather 
> fedora then ubuntu lmao...
> 

I'd rather slackware because it has no systemd, other than that I use CentOS 5, 
and some early 6 with the less crap that they changed in it. fedora is a day0 
attack heaven. super vulnerable. not to mention systemd makes it even more 
vulnerable.

> I use to use slackopuppy it was great, talk about lightweight. and fully 
> functional. security conscious too.

never tried it. I'll have to take a look.

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