On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Unman <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 05:13:56PM +0100, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:08:28 CET Unman wrote:
> > > "useful, but wasnt any good" - do you mean buggy or poorly designed?
> > > What 2 features should be implemented/fixed?
> > >
> > > I confess I rarely use the Manager, so don't have a feel for what's
> wrong
> > > with it.
> >
> > To be clear, the main reason the old one is removed seems to be that it
> > would have had to be reimplemented due to the architecture changes in 4.0
> >
>
> Tom, this is simply not true.
> If you look at issue #2132 you will see that it was a deliberate design
> principle. It has nothing to do with the architecture changes and
> everything to do with simplifying the UX.
>
> I have to say that most of the users I have helped to work with Qubes
> (most unfamiliar to Linux and certainly unused to the command line),
> simply DO NOT USE the manager.
>

Well that proves nothing. If you do not much use the manager and are
teaching people to use Qubes, then you tend to teach to follow the way you
do things and your followers will just do that.

On the contrary I am using the manager for everything also for starting
applications and when I teach Qubes teach it this way and it is learned
this way, so that loosing the manager means loosing all references to be
able to use Qubes.

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