On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 03:33:22PM -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 5:18:33 PM UTC+1, Unman wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 05:44:44AM -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> > > On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 2:36:08 PM UTC+1, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > > > On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 1:20:24 PM UTC+1, [email protected] 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I feel like a total idiot here but here is what I am doing:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) I make an HVM (tried both normal and template) and then assign 
> > > > > more disk space to it. 
> > > > > 2) I download the ubuntu iso file for desktop.
> > > > > 3) I run qvm-start ubuntu --cdrom=vmpath:/home/user/downloads/xxx.iso
> > > > > 4) I run the installation that surprisingly finishes ultra fast. 
> > > > > There are two disks one is xvda and xvdb. The first has the space 
> > > > > that VM has for "personal usage" and the second for "system". I tried 
> > > > > installing on both with same result.
> > > > > 5) As the installation finishes when I shutdown the machine it 
> > > > > doesn't shutdown. A black window keeps on. Then I kill it with 
> > > > > Qubes-manager.
> > > > > 6) after that it doesn't start. It says booting from hard drive but 
> > > > > nothing happens.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I tried many times. What am I doing wrong?
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks in advance
> > > > 
> > > > Don't label yourself as an idiot. Although I'm not an expert, but your 
> > > > logical approach seems pretty good to me, you try to find the reason 
> > > > and logic behind it. No matter what, trying to solve it is a good 
> > > > logical quality.
> > > > 
> > > > As for why it doesn't work, it seems like a driver issue for graphics? 
> > > > You could try change the AppVM's grub menu, and put a different graphic 
> > > > driver, xdriver=vesa, nomodeset, or something along those lines. Vast 
> > > > topics can be found on this issue, now that you can suspect graphiic 
> > > > issues, you can more easily find these topics to try troubleshoot it if 
> > > > neither commands above work.
> > > > 
> > > > You can also try change the used kernel to '' blank, since Ubuntu 
> > > > custom install without Qubes code, probably has no means to use its own 
> > > > kernel pulled from dom0 kernels, and the Ubuntu kernel may try to boot 
> > > > up while the VM kernel's located in dom0. As such, there may be a 
> > > > conflict here? I'm not sure if this is what is happening, but you can 
> > > > try put the qvm-prefs for the kernel in blank, install again and see 
> > > > what happens, it should allow Ubuntu to use its own kernel, I believe.
> > > > 
> > > > btw, for what purposes are you getting Ubuntu? By any chance is it 
> > > > codecs? are the other reasons? It may be more efficient to fix up 
> > > > Fedora or Debian, instead of getting Ubuntu up and running. It's just 
> > > > that there are so many Ubuntu questions lately, I'm a bit lost as to 
> > > > why people would want Ubuntu if they installed Qubes OS. Qubes OS is a 
> > > > bit of a leap to jump from Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora isn't that bad for 
> > > > next steps after Ubuntu, but Qubes OS may be a bit of a leap in its 
> > > > current state. 
> > > > 
> > > > The only real nice thing is the ease to install nvidia drivers, but 
> > > > that is hardly something you will end up needing in Qubes anyway. Can I 
> > > > ask what you need Ubuntu for? and perhaps if you desire to give it a 
> > > > shot for an alternative, and try Fedora and Debian to get the tasks 
> > > > done you usually do on Ubuntu? If you still feel like going for Ubuntu, 
> > > > then that's fine, I won't get in the way for that. 
> > > > 
> > > > As such, if keeping Ubuntu, fixing graphic drivers may be a good place 
> > > > to start here?
> > > 
> > > Hi thanks I will try that. I am using Ubuntu because Debian 8 is such a 
> > > pain when installing new software. You need to enable testing and 
> > > unstable repos and then you end up with a mixed system then things break 
> > > down etc. Ubuntu 16 is for sure compatible with most software oob for the 
> > > next 2 years. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Can you try again, just installing to the first disk?(xvda)
> > Also, make sure that you have enough memory allocated:
> > qvm-prefs <qube> -s memory 8192
> > qvm-prefs <qube> -s maxmem 8192
> > 
> > You're doing the right thing, and as you can boot from the iso all
> > should be fine. There are issues with Ubuntu resolution when running as
> > VM - you can see reference to this in the list in the past. Changing
> > graphics drivers wont help with that issue.
> 
> want to report that I found the problem. it was encrypted home folder. 
> unchecked works ok. not sure if i should post it on github. 
> 

I doubt this is the cause, because I have HVMs with encrypted home
folders and they start fine.(For me this works installing to xvda.)
I dont think a github issue would be appropriate.
Anyway, glad you are up and running.

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