Unfortunately,yes, those links are definitely a lie. I not going to even comment their dishonest advertising-language, but in short: there is a huge difference between removing something for good ore verifying that there most likely hasnt been changed anything. Also, the intel ME thing is from what i have been told totally over the top, the really issues with Purism products lay elsewhere.
I recently got interested in this thematic and almost bought a Purism, but luckily asked first in the coreboot irc. Id really recommend to do some research. There are plenty of sites who show the technically reasons wy one should never buy Purism stuff. That being said, purism current approach using HEADS is a lot better then the stuff they sold in the beginning, one could argue that their current laptops actually might actually improve your security a little bit. If its worth the extra money is a personal choice, i myself feel like its just way to much money for a device which STILL runs almost entirely on properitary software. If you are serious about your security, id recommend an G505s(i dont have one tough) or an x230, i do have one, and it rocks. There will be no blobs whatsoever present except the EC-blob (probably liberated soon) and the bub-module. Also, they are highly modular.(someone custom build mine with fhd display, classic style keyboard, external antenna etc etc, and i fucking love it ;). Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:30 AM, <qubes-...@tutanota.com> wrote: > Hi, during my email conversation with the Todd Weaver in the pre-IME-disabled > time, he told me they will fully disable the IME and AMT within next week. > After about a week they announced they did just that. Are this links a lie? > https://puri.sm/posts/measuring-the-intel-me-to-create-a-more-secure-computer/ > > https://puri.sm/posts/measuring-the-intel-me-to-create-a-more-secure-computer/ > https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ > > https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ > > Talking about alternatives: how the Qubes 4.0 stand with RYF certified X200? > Like for example this one:https://tehnoetic.com/laptops/tet-x200s > https://tehnoetic.com/laptops/tet-x200s and others like T400 and T500, which > can be found there as well. Working well? Any issues known? > Thank you > > Sep 15, 2018, 1:00 AM by taii...@gmx.com: > > > Everyone please be aware that purism's marketing is dishonest. > > Their products do not have open source firmware[1] and the ME is not > > disabled (the kernel still runs along with mask roms and the me hw init > > code) > > Intel chips or any new x86 for that matter do NOT respect your privacy! > > [1]Their coreboot is simply a shim loader layer for Intel's FSP binary > > blob that performs the hardware initiation - these days coreboot doesn't > > necessarily mean open source firmware. > > In terms of laptops it is much better to purchase for instance an owner > > controlled pre-PSP AMD G505S[2] which has open cpu/ram init via coreboot > > or one of the ivy/sandy thinkpads which while not owner controlled are > > significantly more free than puri.crap as they have open cpu/ram/gpu > > init via coreboot and their ME can be nerfed down to the BUP layer which > > while is not at all equivilant to not having an ME at all such as on > > non-x86 arches or pre-PSP AMD it is still much better. > > All of my laptop recommendations here work great with Qubes 4.0 and > > there is a nice little qubes g505s community. > > [2](for the best user experience make sure to get the highest end quad > > core A10 model if you buy one - although the less expensive A6 quad core > > models are still quite usable) > > I do not have an issue with purism selling non-free laptops - I have an > > issue with them being dishonest. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "qubes-users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to > qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > mailto:qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > > To post to this group, send email to > qubes-users@googlegroups.com > > mailto:qubes-users@googlegroups.com> . > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b706b02b-6461-3461-7a6b-19b8ebdb9a8f%40gmx.com > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b706b02b-6461-3461-7a6b-19b8ebdb9a8f%40gmx.com> > > . > > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > https://groups.google.com/d/optout> . > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/LMRlztC--3-1%40tutanota.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. 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