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> On 09/16/2018 02:51 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
>> At present, RYF has not certified any laptops with hardware capable of
>> running Qubes 4.0, but there are a couple older AMDs that can. A scale of
>> hardware openness/owner control from most to least would be something
>> like:
>>
>> 10: OpenPOWER, RYF certified x86 with all blobs replaced- Qubes 4.0 can't
>> run on either
>
> Since you mention power and there aren't currently any laptops do you
> mean laptops or desktops? In terms of desktops there are a variety that
> qubes 4.0 can run on.
You're right, forgot the RYF desktops which support 4.0.
> The future is POWER for all...
>
>> 8: older AMD like A10-5750M- a couple blobs required but Qubes 4.0 works
>> on these and the rest listed
>> 6: pre-Skylake Intel with ME/HAP tweaks- a few more blobs and 2 ME modules
>> required
>> 4: Skylake+ Intel with ME/HAP tweaks, AMD Ryzen with PSP disabled in UEFI
>> config- more blobs and modules required
>
> That doesn't disable it! you are simply asking nicely for it to shut off
> and hoping that it does so. It is not at all equivilant to say pre-core
> intel systems where one really could disable it or even better one that
> doesn't have any black boxes like the talos.
I know, that's why I didn't rate this higher on my invented scale.
>> 0: Intel/AMD x86 with no tweaks- most shipping volume today
>>
>> ARM (& possibly RISC) is a special case in that the integrator can decide
>> where on the scale they want to deliver their product, but neither support
>> Qubes 4.0.
>>
>
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