john s.:

in /etc/apt/sources.list there is this

deb stretch/updates main contrib non-free
but that is not the same as
deb stretch-updates main contrib non-free

No, they are different. First is for high priority security updates. Second is for proposed general updates- most of them will make it to stable but not if there's a problem found with them in this stage. For example, when I checked while responding to the above, there was also a kernel update and some bind updates in there that hadn't yet been pushed to stable.

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