On 2020-04-08 13:30, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
Mark Fernandes:

But surely it would be better just to buy it brand new in a shrink-wrapped
condition over the counter at a physical store, where you randomly select
the hardware from many alternatives? In the UK, we have a store called PC
World that seems set-up for such buying strategies in mind.

Any thoughts?

Good point, that could work too. There is yet another perspective where
everything new that contains ME or PSP is already compromised out of the
box, whereas older hardware lets you disable more thoroughly or avoid.
On the other hand, could just be a cost issue with new hardware. No real
"right" answer, all depends on how you weight probabilities and your
monetary units.


My threat model is tempered by my income, and I think its fairly safe to say I am not being specifically targeted.

The open source, or semi-open source options like Novena or Libreum would be great but I am not sure the Novena would be much faster than what i have now (assuming Qubes works on Arm) and Libreum while really cool and an effort i would love to support i am afraid they are likely out of my price range.

I am looking for a bit of a work horse (not nessisarily bleeding edge) but is not going to bankrupt me which, as i see it, leaves me getting used hardware. I can put something together but at the moment have a pretty full plate in terms of work so getting something that is pre-assmembled (or mostly, I have bunches of drives around so that wouldnt be an issue) and highly likely to play nice with Qubes is pretty much at the top of my priority list.

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