That's right. The releases are based on what's known when they are released, not what will be known in the future.

And statisticians are supposed to be good at prediction...

Duncan Murdoch

On 11/02/2023 4:53 p.m., Jeff Newmiller wrote:
Operating systems are designed to be as backward-compatible as possible... R 
Core doesn't generally know what distinguishing features will identify a new OS 
until it is released, nor what it will be called, so R has a handicap.

On February 11, 2023 1:12:42 PM PST, Christofer Bogaso 
<bogaso.christo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually when I check from the Apple icon, then I see that I am
actually running Ventura

For some reason, R's sessionInfo() is reporting that I am running Big Sur.

Not sure why R is reporting wrong. Thanks,

On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:38 AM Christofer Bogaso
<bogaso.christo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I am running Big Sur. Below is my sessionInfo()

sessionInfo()

R version 4.2.1 (2022-06-23)

Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit)

Running under: macOS Big Sur ... 10.16


Matrix products: default

BLAS:   
/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib/libRblas.0.dylib

LAPACK: 
/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib


locale:

[1] C/UTF-8/C/C/C/C


attached base packages:

[1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base


loaded via a namespace (and not attached):

[1] compiler_4.2.1

On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 1:55 AM Simon Urbanek
<simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote:

Christofer,

yes, unfortunately this is a known bug in macOS Ventura affecting a lot of 
command-line programs that use GUI. Do not upgrade to Ventura (usually a good 
advice given the long list of known bugs in Ventura) or wait for a fix from 
Apple.

Cheers,
Simon



On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:28 PM, Christofer Bogaso <bogaso.christo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi,

When I plot something in R, then it open Quartz and in the console I
see below messages

plot(1:4)

1   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229a2726 
_ZN15MenuBarInstance22EnsureAutoShowObserverEv + 102

2   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229a22b8
_ZN15MenuBarInstance14EnableAutoShowEv + 52

3   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822946908
SetMenuBarObscured + 408

4   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229464ca
_ZN13HIApplication15HandleActivatedEP14OpaqueEventRefhP15OpaqueWindowPtrh
+ 164

5   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822940996
_ZN13HIApplication13EventObserverEjP14OpaqueEventRefPv + 252

6   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822908bd2
_NotifyEventLoopObservers + 153

7   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229403e6
AcquireEventFromQueue + 494

8   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f3ec
ReceiveNextEventCommon + 285

9   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f2b3
_BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 70

10  AppKit                              0x00007ff81c136f33 _DPSNextEvent + 909

11  AppKit                              0x00007ff81c135db4
-[NSApplication(NSEvent)
_nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1219

12  grDevices.so                        0x00000001086f7a3b input_handler + 155

13  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108b142cf
Rstd_ReadConsole + 2127

14  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a15b74
Rf_ReplIteration + 100

15  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a174b1 R_ReplConsole + 161

16  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a17402 run_Rmainloop + 82

17  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a1753e Rf_mainloop + 14

18  R                                   0x000000010847af5b main + 27

19  dyld                                0x00007ff818bde310 start + 2432

1   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822aa952b
_ZN15MenuBarInstance21IsAutoShowHideAllowedEv + 259

2   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229a233e
_ZN15MenuBarInstance24UpdateAutoShowVisibilityE5Pointh + 34

3   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229117a4
_ZN15MenuBarInstance16ForEachMenuBarDoEU13block_pointerFvPS_E + 46

4   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229a293d
_ZN15MenuBarInstance20AutoShowHideObserverEjP14OpaqueEventRefPv + 165

5   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822908bd2
_NotifyEventLoopObservers + 153

6   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82293afb8
PostEventToQueueInternal + 700

7   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82293c871
_ZL29CreateAndPostEventWithCGEventP9__CGEventjhP17__CFMachPortBoost +
404

8   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822948ee9
_ZL15Convert1CGEventh + 246

9   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822948d91
_ZL16MainLoopObserverjP14OpaqueEventRefPv + 41

10  HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822908bd2
_NotifyEventLoopObservers + 153

11  HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f726
RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 228

12  HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f396
ReceiveNextEventCommon + 199

13  HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f2b3
_BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 70

14  AppKit                              0x00007ff81c136f33 _DPSNextEvent + 909

15  AppKit                              0x00007ff81c135db4
-[NSApplication(NSEvent)
_nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1219

16  grDevices.so                        0x00000001086f7a3b input_handler + 155

17  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108b142cf
Rstd_ReadConsole + 2127

18  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a15b74
Rf_ReplIteration + 100

19  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a174b1 R_ReplConsole + 161

20  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a17402 run_Rmainloop + 82

21  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a1753e Rf_mainloop + 14

22  R                                   0x000000010847af5b main + 27

23  dyld                                0x00007ff818bde310 start + 2432

1   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f0c2
_ZN15MenuBarInstance22RemoveAutoShowObserverEv + 30

2   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229467e3
SetMenuBarObscured + 115

3   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82294d29e
_ZN13HIApplication11FrontUILostEv + 34

4   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822946622
_ZN13HIApplication15HandleActivatedEP14OpaqueEventRefhP15OpaqueWindowPtrh
+ 508

5   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822940950
_ZN13HIApplication13EventObserverEjP14OpaqueEventRefPv + 182

6   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff822908bd2
_NotifyEventLoopObservers + 153

7   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff8229403e6
AcquireEventFromQueue + 494

8   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f3ec
ReceiveNextEventCommon + 285

9   HIToolbox                           0x00007ff82292f2b3
_BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 70

10  AppKit                              0x00007ff81c136f33 _DPSNextEvent + 909

11  AppKit                              0x00007ff81c135db4
-[NSApplication(NSEvent)
_nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1219

12  grDevices.so                        0x00000001086f7a77 input_handler + 215

13  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108b142cf
Rstd_ReadConsole + 2127

14  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a15b74
Rf_ReplIteration + 100

15  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a174b1 R_ReplConsole + 161

16  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a17402 run_Rmainloop + 82

17  libR.dylib                          0x0000000108a1753e Rf_mainloop + 14

18  R                                   0x000000010847af5b main + 27

19  dyld                                0x00007ff818bde310 start + 2432

I am using R through Terminal in my Mac

sessionInfo()

R version 4.2.1 (2022-06-23)

Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit)

Running under: macOS Big Sur ... 10.16


Matrix products: default

BLAS:   
/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib/libRblas.0.dylib

LAPACK: 
/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib


locale:

[1] C/UTF-8/C/C/C/C


attached base packages:

[1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base


loaded via a namespace (and not attached):

[1] compiler_4.2.1

Is there any way to stop/hide these messages?

Thanks for your time.

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