Hi Franz,
Could this be a separation issue? Even if you cannot trust the output, looking at the estimates is informative. It can tell you where the region of high likelihood might be, and if the convergence problem comes from alpha going to an extreme, or from the estimated probabilities going to 0 or 1 (that would indicate a separation issue).
I don't recommend increasing the btol value.

You could also try the "logistic_MPLE" method, rather than "logistic_IG10". In my experience, maximizing the penalized likelihood directly (MPLE) converges better and has better accuracy.
Cecile.

On 07/06/2015 03:49 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hello,

after a discussion with Brian (see [R-sig-phylo] corDISC binary coding 
problems, 04/15) I used the method from Ives and Garland (2010),
which is implemented in the R package phylolm.

The problem is, that the likelihood estimator does not converge.
Here is my code:

fit <- phyloglm(rot.fill ~ Acrogymnospermae + Magnoliophyta,
                   data=dat, phy=data$phy, method = "logistic_IG10", btol=20,
                   log.alpha.bound = 4, start.beta=NULL, start.alpha=NULL)

And the warning message:

In phyloglm(rot.fill ~ Acrogymnospermae + Magnoliophyta, data = dat,  :
   phyloglm failed to converge.

So the function produces an output but the results are not reliable since the 
global maximum is very likely not reached...

I set the btol value to 20 by try and error-increasing (which I don’t really 
understand since I thought the bounds converge to 0 and 1 at about btol=10 ??)

Now I have to find suitable start.beta and start.alpha values. But I have no 
clue how to approach them. Can anyone help?
Why doesn’t phyloglm has a option for iterating starting values?

All the Best,
Franz



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