Sorry about that Zach.
I misread your e-mail. Anyway, it was good that you posted your original
e-mail because it gave me the opportunity to have a bit of an audit on
the stats.
Peter.

Zach wrote:
> 
> No Pete as I just replied my laptop is now the same as RB results on the
> net..There is no longer a $40 diff....The figures I now get are 271
> investments and $288.45 win divie =5.9% plus return over all starters all
> races
> Cheers Zach
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Harrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [racebase] Ratings Change
> 
> >
> > Thanks Zach,
> > I say 9:30 to be conservative. You are right it is normally at 9 am or
> > just before that it is updated.
> > I am still concerned that the tally you got is $40 less than my tally.
> > The top picks you get after the 9 am update each day should be exactly
> > the same as the top picks on the site apart from :
> > 1) There is a change in track conditions.
> > 2) There is a change in jockey.
> > 3) The top pick is a late scratching in which case the 2nd pick is
> > taken.
> >
> > But even you you don't take into account changes in track conditions, I
> > don't think there should be as much as $40 difference.
> > I am still looking for others to go to (3rd time lucky)
> > http://www.racebase.co.nz/racem7.txt
> > and have a browse (at least) through the October top picks and see if it
> > is what they have been getting. This is VERY IMPORTANT. I am wanting to
> > know if there is a major fault. Perhaps not as many follow the
> > predictions as I thought !
> > Peter.
> >
> > Zach wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Pete did all that last month remember.(all the reinstalling etc)
> > > Have checked October as it is in my laptop records now and it is the
> same as
> > > yours..Once again sorry for any inconvenience..
> > > One query I do have is re your comment about d/loading before
> 9.30am....Now
> > > I often find that the site has been updated at say 8.55 or say 9.05am or
> > > something (as stated on the d/load webb site) ARE you saying that even
> if it
> > > has been updated it will not be right untill AFTER 9.30am
> > > Cheers Zach
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Harrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [racebase] Ratings Change
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The other reason that could account for the discrepency :
> > > > If at any stage you need to reinstall RaceBase from the CD. You MUST
> > > > follow that up with a 'Whole Database Download' otherwise there could
> be
> > > > big gaps in your data. A 'Normal Download' only downloads the last
> 1000
> > > > races, so if your CD only contains the data up to more than 1000 races
> > > > ago, there will be a period missing.
> > > > Peter.
> > > >
> > > > Peter Harrop wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Zach.
> > > > > I've made some comments after each of your points.
> > > > >
> > > > > Zach wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Pete...I'm sure you are RIGHT..I'm very sorry that my records
> > > airn't
> > > > > > right...Having said that what I have got is what I invested on and
> the
> > > > > > effective returns etc
> > > > > > There's 3 things that I can think of
> > > > > > 1/ I take the mornings printout as gospel as most of the time I
> don't
> > > have
> > > > > > the luxury of having the ability to follow every race all day,as
> I'm
> > > sure is
> > > > > > the case for a great many of us(working on the swings and
> roundabouts
> > > theory
> > > > > > it should balance out in the long run)
> > > > >
> > > > > When you mean the morning download, I presume you mean after 9:30
> am. I
> > > > > notice some people download before this time before the correct
> track
> > > > > conditions are posted and before scratchings are taken out.
> > > > > Apart from that, the morning download should be gospel. The only
> time
> > > > > when it may change is when there is a change in track conditions -
> in
> > > > > which case the change is posted here and it is just a matter of
> pressing
> > > > > one of F1-F4 on the field for the user to change it. OR when there
> is a
> > > > > late change in jockey. In this case, where this change has an impact
> on
> > > > > a top pick winner (whether promotion or demotion) it is posted here
> > > > > under the heading 'Ratings Change' (like for Tuesdays race).
> > > > > Even considering the above, there shouldn't be a difference of $40
> in
> > > > > your divvy total and mine. That is quite a difference. That is why I
> > > > > suspect there may be something wrong with your database.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2/ I take into account ALL races including the ones with heaps of
> 1st
> > > > > > starters
> > > > >
> > > > > On my webpage, the 1st set of stats eliminates races where more than
> > > > > 1/5th of the starters are 1st starters. The 2nd set includes ALL
> races,
> > > > > except those where there are less than 3 runners that have had a
> > > > > previous start. So the 2nd set eliminates only 1 or 2 races per
> month.
> > > > > The 2nd set of stats should tally with yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only other reason that I can think of for the difference apart
> from
> > > > > an error in your database is that you may have the settings
> incorrect.
> > > > > Make sure you have :
> > > > > Chart to Use = RaceBase
> > > > > Method to Use = Margins
> > > > > Use Jockey Ratings = Yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you suspect that there may be something wrong with your data, do
> a
> > > > > 'Whole Database Download'. That is also why I encourage people to
> check
> > > > > what they are getting with their predictions with mine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 3/ If you remember I dicovered a problem with my laptop RB data
> base
> > > last
> > > > > > month and I can't remember which days I used it to get my morning
> > > d/loads
> > > > > > of, which I'm sure is the main reason for the difference
> > > > > > I'll check the web site results against my computers as soon as I
> get
> > > time
> > > > > > Cheers Zach
> > > > >
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