That's a good idea Zach. I'll have a think about that. Peter. Zach wrote: > > Gidday again Pete.....One thing I have thought of out of all this is would > it be possible to have say a race(or even the top few hores in each) from > each meeting showing on the d/load page each day to do a quick check against > Cheers Zach > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Harrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:57 PM > Subject: Re: [racebase] Ratings Change > > > > > Sorry about that Zach. > > I misread your e-mail. Anyway, it was good that you posted your original > > e-mail because it gave me the opportunity to have a bit of an audit on > > the stats. > > Peter. > > > > Zach wrote: > > > > > > No Pete as I just replied my laptop is now the same as RB results on the > > > net..There is no longer a $40 diff....The figures I now get are 271 > > > investments and $288.45 win divie =5.9% plus return over all starters > all > > > races > > > Cheers Zach > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Harrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: [racebase] Ratings Change > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Zach, > > > > I say 9:30 to be conservative. You are right it is normally at 9 am or > > > > just before that it is updated. > > > > I am still concerned that the tally you got is $40 less than my tally. > > > > The top picks you get after the 9 am update each day should be exactly > > > > the same as the top picks on the site apart from : > > > > 1) There is a change in track conditions. > > > > 2) There is a change in jockey. > > > > 3) The top pick is a late scratching in which case the 2nd pick is > > > > taken. > > > > > > > > But even you you don't take into account changes in track conditions, > I > > > > don't think there should be as much as $40 difference. > > > > I am still looking for others to go to (3rd time lucky) > > > > http://www.racebase.co.nz/racem7.txt > > > > and have a browse (at least) through the October top picks and see if > it > > > > is what they have been getting. This is VERY IMPORTANT. I am wanting > to > > > > know if there is a major fault. Perhaps not as many follow the > > > > predictions as I thought ! > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > Zach wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Pete did all that last month remember.(all the reinstalling etc) > > > > > Have checked October as it is in my laptop records now and it is the > > > same as > > > > > yours..Once again sorry for any inconvenience.. > > > > > One query I do have is re your comment about d/loading before > > > 9.30am....Now > > > > > I often find that the site has been updated at say 8.55 or say > 9.05am or > > > > > something (as stated on the d/load webb site) ARE you saying that > even > > > if it > > > > > has been updated it will not be right untill AFTER 9.30am > > > > > Cheers Zach > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Peter Harrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:49 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [racebase] Ratings Change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other reason that could account for the discrepency : > > > > > > If at any stage you need to reinstall RaceBase from the CD. You > MUST > > > > > > follow that up with a 'Whole Database Download' otherwise there > could > > > be > > > > > > big gaps in your data. A 'Normal Download' only downloads the last > > > 1000 > > > > > > races, so if your CD only contains the data up to more than 1000 > races > > > > > > ago, there will be a period missing. > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Harrop wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zach. > > > > > > > I've made some comments after each of your points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zach wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Pete...I'm sure you are RIGHT..I'm very sorry that my > records > > > > > airn't > > > > > > > > right...Having said that what I have got is what I invested on > and > > > the > > > > > > > > effective returns etc > > > > > > > > There's 3 things that I can think of > > > > > > > > 1/ I take the mornings printout as gospel as most of the time > I > > > don't > > > > > have > > > > > > > > the luxury of having the ability to follow every race all > day,as > > > I'm > > > > > sure is > > > > > > > > the case for a great many of us(working on the swings and > > > roundabouts > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > it should balance out in the long run) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you mean the morning download, I presume you mean after > 9:30 > > > am. I > > > > > > > notice some people download before this time before the correct > > > track > > > > > > > conditions are posted and before scratchings are taken out. > > > > > > > Apart from that, the morning download should be gospel. The only > > > time > > > > > > > when it may change is when there is a change in track > conditions - > > > in > > > > > > > which case the change is posted here and it is just a matter of > > > pressing > > > > > > > one of F1-F4 on the field for the user to change it. OR when > there > > > is a > > > > > > > late change in jockey. In this case, where this change has an > impact > > > on > > > > > > > a top pick winner (whether promotion or demotion) it is posted > here > > > > > > > under the heading 'Ratings Change' (like for Tuesdays race). > > > > > > > Even considering the above, there shouldn't be a difference of > $40 > > > in > > > > > > > your divvy total and mine. That is quite a difference. That is > why I > > > > > > > suspect there may be something wrong with your database. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ I take into account ALL races including the ones with heaps > of > > > 1st > > > > > > > > starters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my webpage, the 1st set of stats eliminates races where more > than > > > > > > > 1/5th of the starters are 1st starters. The 2nd set includes ALL > > > races, > > > > > > > except those where there are less than 3 runners that have had a > > > > > > > previous start. So the 2nd set eliminates only 1 or 2 races per > > > month. > > > > > > > The 2nd set of stats should tally with yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only other reason that I can think of for the difference > apart > > > from > > > > > > > an error in your database is that you may have the settings > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > Make sure you have : > > > > > > > Chart to Use = RaceBase > > > > > > > Method to Use = Margins > > > > > > > Use Jockey Ratings = Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you suspect that there may be something wrong with your data, > do > > > a > > > > > > > 'Whole Database Download'. That is also why I encourage people > to > > > check > > > > > > > what they are getting with their predictions with mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3/ If you remember I dicovered a problem with my laptop RB > data > > > base > > > > > last > > > > > > > > month and I can't remember which days I used it to get my > morning > > > > > d/loads > > > > > > > > of, which I'm sure is the main reason for the difference > > > > > > > > I'll check the web site results against my computers as soon > as I > > > get > > > > > time > > > > > > > > Cheers Zach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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