I never said that lowering barriers is lying or insulting. I say that lowering barriers by lying (by making an impression instead of a reality demonstration) is really bad way to go.
If there is actual barriers, the work must be putted to improve on them, and not to improve on showing that this barriers don't exist. There is also some barriers that you newer should break, for example people must be actually interested in writing computer programs in some way at least. And regarding to this message must(this is just my opinion) be clear - "we welcome anyone who want to learn". - "This is how Racket looks like" - "This is how community looks like" - "This is how contribution is happening" - "This is main people behind the project" Openness is helping a lot. People clearly can see when what showed to them is real deal or marketing. I really like RacketCon videos in this regard, they a honest. And honesty is the way to build social relations. Unfortunately, I cannot up this discussion to scientific proof level because this is not practical for me (It takes big effort for me to write in English). And perhaps will be impropriety thing to do. My personal wish is to see some way to internationalize Racket... If someone will want to translate site or documentation to other languages, what it might look like? четверг, 25 июля 2019 г., 20:02:01 UTC+3 пользователь Matthew Butterick написал: > > Mr. Atlas, since this seems to be only your second contribution to the > racket-users list (the first was yesterday) I'm reluctant to impute much > weight to your views, since I can't verify that there's a sincere human > behind them. > > In any case, I can agree with you on the value of education. But the idea > that lowering barriers is equivalent to "ruining community", "lying to > people", and "insult[ing] people who are already in the project" — no, I > don't agree, and those ideas are inconsistent with everything I've learned > about how Racket operates. > > > On Jul 25, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Atlas Atlas <peacekee...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > 1. To increase inclusiveness of some group of people, you educate people > from this group on the subject of lisp racket computer science etc. > 2. By lowering "barriers" you just welcome someone who doesn't care for > the project and ruining community from inside. > 3. By making a show about what project is NOT, you lying to people you > want to attract, and insult people who are already in the project. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/022e97ed-2278-4d3b-9a01-0520219ff5c7%40googlegroups.com.
