On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:59:03AM -0700, Jérôme Martin wrote: > On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 9:39:08 PM UTC+2, Atlas Atlas wrote: > > For example men in general more aggressive then women, they also pursue > different social goals. You cannot ignore this, or blame the men for what > they are. You also cannot ignore the fact that people in general driven by > their sexuality. > > > This kind of idea is the heart of the problem I'm trying to highlight. > Recent (and old) studies show that considering men and women as having > different motivations driven by their gender is false and was created by > most modern societies as a way to justify social differences by finding a > fake reason in "the laws of nature".
There are significant differences between man and women, and between their interests, driven by societh ane evolution. But they are statistical differences and should never be considered when dealing with individuals. Many of the variations within groups are greater than the variations between groups. You have to judge individuals as individuals, ane not as average members of a group. Certainly this is so for variations in those aptitudes related to the use of Scheme. > > In the beginning of IT, writing computer programs was considered a low > value job and was assigned to women (as always). This was so in the 1950's. Then men started to > realize that it might be an important task after all, and got rid of women > as soon as they found out it was some kind of "engineering", therefore a > highest valued job. Barriers were closed, women were left behind. By the 1960's women in computing were relegated to being typists. > > If a woman wants to work in IT today, she has to: > - Work twice as hard > - Let men get the rewards from her work > - Bear with the fact that every time she says something in a meeting, a man > will repeat it and get more traction > - If she has a blog or a social media account, bear with sexual harassment > and rape threats every single day > - Bear with more aggressive code reviews > - Accept to earn less money and don't get promoted > - Be told that she was not able to "seize opportunities" > > When a woman tough enough to cope with this comes into an open source > community.. guess what? > She faces the same issues! Unless she disguises herself by using a male or gender-ambiguous name. Online existence by itself doesn't reveal her gender. She shouldn't have to do this. ... ... > > Enough of this, please. Sad, but currently true. The last thing we should do is to try to become more "inclusive" by appealing to stereotypes. We can instead treat everyone based on the merit of technical contributions and questions, and curtail attacks based on the usual list of prejudices. -- hendrik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/20190726205302.caj42kmcxkr72pxa%40topoi.pooq.com.
