Jim, Yeah, thanks for your work on "comments". The only thing I ran into off a checkout of Master that appeared to be a bug/missing feature was in the comments form where it uses the tag like "if_simple_spam_filter_enabled" or something -- Radiant complained that the tag was unknown. Given that you're working on that right now, I'm sure I just got a version that wasn't 100% ready. I like that simple spam protection, though, so I just removed the conditional and everything is great.
As far as the automation/testing plan, it would seem like a combination of EC2 + Chef would be an ideal setup. I have been interested in some of that automated setup technology, so if no one jumps on it by the time I hit summer vacation, I'll take a look. I'm also interested in working on more "narrative" documentation for Radiant. Right now there is a lot of great information, but some is in the wiki, some in github pages, some in the list archives, and there isn't necessarily a clear story. Probably within the wiki itself, it would be nice to walk a totally new user through the major processes, maybe even going beyond "novice" and starting them into extension customization/development. I'm a decent Rubyist and sys admin, and it took me some work to get everything going in the right direction. I'm sure there are a lot of normal users out that who would be good community-members if we can get them started. If anyone has thoughts on this, I'd love to hear them. - Jeff PS: Postgres? I knew you seemed like a smart guy. :) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jim Gay<j...@saturnflyer.com> wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Jeff Casimir wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> Wow, great info. I was actually fighting with "comments" among others >> for a few hours, but I'm sure I made it more work than necessary. Now >> everything is going great and I have a lot better understanding of how >> the extensions are managed and work. > > I'm maintaining comments so it's probably my fault. But let me know what you > ran into, I made a few commits to the main repository that I shouldn't have > pushed until I had the fixes in so you may have pulled it down in that > window. Also, I'm integrating built-in spam filtering and other things, so > the code is getting a lot of updates. > >> >> It would be pretty awesome if some kind, free-time having soul were to >> implement "isitradiant.com" like "isitjruby.com". Especially with >> Radiant being at 0.8 and, at least from the version number, reserving >> the right to break compatibility at will, it would be awesome if there >> were a site that did nightly integration tests of all the extensions >> in the registry. It would be tougher to do "Radiant + Extension A + >> Extension B" combinations, but at least "Radiant + A" singles would be >> really useful information. > > I would personally love to see that. I've been meaning to contact the folks > at http://runcoderun.com/ to see if they'd have a way to do it. > The way I think we'll need to address it for now is to have people from the > community help test. I, for example, use PostgreSQL so I try to make sure > that the Radiant core will pass all of those tests, wheras others use MySQL > or SQLite and test there. > >> >> - Jeff >> >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jim Gay<j...@saturnflyer.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Jeff Casimir wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Is the expectation that unless the GitHub page specifically says that >>>> an extension works with 0.8, that it WON'T work? >>> >>> Maybe. It depends. Some extensions might not require an update. >>> >>>> I've tried and failed to install a few extensions, and now there's so >>>> much non-working cruft that I'm thinking it'd be easier to start a new >>>> instance and transfer all my content then debug what's wrong with >>>> different rake tasks, migrations, etc. >>>> >>>> Different pages have different suggestions for installation process, >>>> is it "more preferred" to use: >>>> >>>> script/extension install extension_name >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> rake radiant:extensions:extension_name:install >>> >>> These are entirely different things. >>> Using "script/extension install extension_name" will get information from >>> the extension registry http://ext.radiantcms.org/, pull down the >>> extension, >>> run the migrate task, and run the update task. >>> >>> The command "rake radiant:extensions:extension_name:install" would just >>> be >>> some command to perform the "install" rake task (assuming it exists) in >>> the >>> extension "extension_name" >>> >>> To see what rake tasks your extensions provide, you may do "rake -T" from >>> the root of the project. >>> >>>> >>>> I've had better luck with the former, but many of the github pages >>>> suggest the latter. >>> >>> Using "script/extension" will pull down the information. This is the same >>> as >>> a download, git clone, svn checkout, or whatever else. "script/extension >>> install" assumes the presence of "migrate" and "update" tasks for each >>> extension and runs them. >>> If you were to use some other process for getting the code (download, git >>> clone, etc) you'd still need to run whatever tasks are necessary to fully >>> "install" the extension. Some extensions need a database migration, >>> others >>> need to put files in the public directory (the "update" rake task) and >>> others need nothing. >>> Help (http://ext.radiantcms.org/extensions/5-help), for example, was >>> written >>> to just be a drop-in extension (no migrate or update tasks) where you >>> just >>> put it in your project and start up the server. Dashboard >>> (http://ext.radiantcms.org/extensions/40-dashboard) however requires an >>> update task to be run but no migration. RBAC Base >>> (http://ext.radiantcms.org/extensions/87-rbac-base) requires both migrate >>> and update to be run. >>> >>>> >>>> Apologies if I'm missing something obvious, >>> >>> Not obvious, but Josh French has committed changes for the next release >>> that >>> will allow extension developers to configure dependencies from the >>> extension >>> which might help with the installation process as far as things like >>> error >>> messages go. There will be more development on this in the future. >>> And the Ray extension (http://ext.radiantcms.org/extensions/36-ray) has a >>> way to manage dependencies from within an extension (as well as min/max >>> versions of Radiant), but I'm not sure how many take advantage of it. >>> >>>> Jeff >>> >>> You might be able to get a lot of help by simply emailing the list with >>> something like "I want to upgrade to Radiant 0.8.0 and I have extensions >>> X, >>> Y and Z. Are all of those extensions ready?" >>> You're likely to get replies from the extension authors, or other users >>> of >>> those extensions who might know. >>> >>> So... what extensions do you have? >>> >>> I personally have many extensions which I wrote and manage and updating >>> them >>> is not my full-time job, so some may not work yet. If it's a simple fix >>> and >>> I know somebody needs it, I'm happy to address the changes. >>> >>> This is a pretty helpful community, so just ask away. >>> >>> -Jim >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Radiant mailing list >>> Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org >>> Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ >>> Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Radiant mailing list >> Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org >> Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ >> Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > > _______________________________________________ > Radiant mailing list > Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org > Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ > Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > _______________________________________________ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
