H Billy,

On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> OK, but if you drive around with no spare and have a blowout
> 20 miles outside of Fresno.........
>  
> I simply don't see where "political unity and economic growth"
> are issues. Not talking about protecting whole industries,
> just parts of any that we would need in an emergency.

I still haven't seen any of you scenarios that justify 
stockpiling/manufacturing electric transformers. 

Maybe I don't understand your definition of emergency.  Or of transformers.

If your scenario is "All exports from China shut down suddenly with no warning 
while we are immediately in a supply-constrained war of attrition", then yes, I 
can see how we must be able to immediately manufacture *everything* we need to 
run our core economy for an extended period of time.  But I assert that 
attempting to enforce that would carry a huge economic and political cost.  
Would you disagree?

If the scenario is, "We need to be able to field a military force overseas for 
six months relying entire on domestic manufacturing and stockpiles", then I 
agree.  That argues for ensuring that munitions (and the industries that 
support them) are self-sufficient.  But I don't see how you get from there to 
electric transformers.

Is your scenario somewhere in the middle?  Or are electric transformers somehow 
essential for building missiles?

-- Ernie P.




> In case we need them if a war breaks out and we cannot wait
> to redevelop them, which could take months or even years.
> With "spares" in place the only task would be expansion to
> necessary capacity ;  the expertise would be available.
>  
> This is entirely consistent with  thoughtful "scenarios, realistic analyses,
> and balanced strategies."
>  
> No idea where you see  serious problems arising. We have no
> such problems with, say, the strategic petroleum reserve,
> and that is the basic idea. The oil industry does quite well
> and has no complaints.




>  
> Billy
>  
> ==============================
>  
>  
>  
> 4/30/2012 2:31:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] 
> writes:
> Hi Billy,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:22, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > Therefore a spare tire for consumer electronics, transformers,
> > and everything else that we would need if, say, a Chinese collapse
> > results in large scale war, or turmoil in the Mid East if Israel is hit
> > by Iranian rockets and a war like 1973 breaks out  --to use just
> > two examples.
> >  
> > Spare tire :  Don't leave home without it.
> 
> The problem is that everything has tradeoffs.  Saving electronic transformers 
> may not be worth it if it costs political unity and economic growth. We need 
> robust scenarios, realistic analyses, and balanced strategies. Justifying 
> policy by accusing opponents of ignoring "national security interest" is the 
> opposite of that. :-)
> 
> E
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