Title: "Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech
EMP weapons. Electro-Magnetic Pulse. Even at a height of 30,000 feet, one of these can bring down the power grid of the entire US. We really need to harden our power grid, or face a time of REALLY dark ages.

David

"Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection."—Neal Boortz

 


On 4/30/2012 6:13 PM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:
H Billy,

On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:

OK, but if you drive around with no spare and have a blowout
20 miles outside of Fresno.........
 
I simply don't see where "political unity and economic growth"
are issues. Not talking about protecting whole industries,
just parts of any that we would need in an emergency.

I still haven't seen any of you scenarios that justify stockpiling/manufacturing electric transformers. 

Maybe I don't understand your definition of emergency.  Or of transformers.

If your scenario is "All exports from China shut down suddenly with no warning while we are immediately in a supply-constrained war of attrition", then yes, I can see how we must be able to immediately manufacture *everything* we need to run our core economy for an extended period of time.  But I assert that attempting to enforce that would carry a huge economic and political cost.  Would you disagree?

If the scenario is, "We need to be able to field a military force overseas for six months relying entire on domestic manufacturing and stockpiles", then I agree.  That argues for ensuring that munitions (and the industries that support them) are self-sufficient.  But I don't see how you get from there to electric transformers.

Is your scenario somewhere in the middle?  Or are electric transformers somehow essential for building missiles?

-- Ernie P.




In case we need them if a war breaks out and we cannot wait
to redevelop them, which could take months or even years.
With "spares" in place the only task would be expansion to
necessary capacity ;  the expertise would be available.
 
This is entirely consistent with  thoughtful "scenarios, realistic analyses,
and balanced strategies."
 
No idea where you see  serious problems arising. We have no
such problems with, say, the strategic petroleum reserve,
and that is the basic idea. The oil industry does quite well
and has no complaints.




 
Billy
 
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4/30/2012 2:31:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Hi Billy,

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:22, [email protected] wrote:

> Therefore a spare tire for consumer electronics, transformers,
> and everything else that we would need if, say, a Chinese collapse
> results in large scale war, or turmoil in the Mid East if Israel is hit
> by Iranian rockets and a war like 1973 breaks out  --to use just
> two examples.

> Spare tire :  Don't leave home without it.

The problem is that everything has tradeoffs.  Saving electronic transformers may not be worth it if it costs political unity and economic growth. We need robust scenarios, realistic analyses, and balanced strategies. Justifying policy by accusing opponents of ignoring "national security interest" is the opposite of that. :-)

E

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