Hi Billy, On May 1, 2012, at 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote: > " It's not like we're winning the war with the strategies we now have." > I can buy that, no question about it. But, sincerely, I would prefer > some kind of viable renewal rather than a values collapse.
I don't see it happening in the short term. The Christian community is still under the illusion that if they just had more political power, suddenly everything would be turned around. I'm not sure what it would take to shatter that illusion, short of a dramatic collapse. > Big question, where does such a renewal come from ? > So far no-one has a good answer. I do. I'm just not tellin' :-) > The usual approach, "if we are really, really, really sincere this time it > will all work out," > is naive. People have been plenty sincere in the past and, while there have > been some > temporary revivals, some large, each time around this is less effective. Some > serious > and soul-searching thought needs to go into solving the problem. On it. > My hope is for some version of E Stanley Jones' approach remade for the 21st > century > as the nucleus of a solution, but beyond that there are many questions about > what has the potential to actually work. Okay, here's a teaser. The key is creating and accumulating cultural capital. That requires a new breed of self-reproducing institutions that bypass/leapfrog the existing institutions (both Christian and secular) by embodying the transformational values we wish to see permeate society. Some will join us, many will copy us with greater or lesser success, but those who refuse the adopt the new values will simply die off. It'll take a generation, but it is pretty guaranteed to succeed. At least for a century or so, which I fear is the best we can hope for this close to the end. -- Ernie P. > > Billy > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > > 5/1/2012 10:41:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > On May 1, 2012, at 10:35 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> Ummmm, >> Sounds kind of like Lenin in 1917. He hoped to see the collapse of Russian >> military effectiveness in WWI so that the Bolshevik revolution would be >> expedited. >> He got his wish. Not sure that was such a hot idea. > > It's not like we're winning the war with the strategies we now have. > > -- Ernie P. > >> >> Billy :-( >> >> >> ============================================ >> >> >> >> 5/1/2012 7:10:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] >> writes: >> Hi Billy, >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 1, 2012, at 3:40, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> I also am very concerned about the possibility of some kind of Christian >>> values collapse in America, even if this is less likely in any near term. >>> But a few years from now ? >>> I am very uneasy about that. >> >> >> I'm hoping for it. :-) The greater the crises, the easier it will be to >> peddle radical (centrist) solutions. >> >> As I mentioned off-list, the reason I'm not engaging in political activism >> this decade is that I'm busy reinventing the Christian Church! >> >> Stay tuned.... >> >> E >>> >> >> >> -- >> Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community >> <[email protected]> >> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism >> Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org >> >> > > > > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
