Hi Billy,

> Luther, Schweitzer, Kierkegaard, Barth, Rauschenbusch, Niebuhr, and so forth.
> Actually the list can go far back in time, all the way to Clement  -or all 
> the way back to Paul.

That reminds me: where exactly do you stand on Gandhi and MLK Jr?

I presume you admire them, but as best I recall they also preached values like 
“forgiveness” and “self-purification” that you have taken exception to.  But I 
don’t think anyone would say they lacked the ability to take effective action...

E

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